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Brutale

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BRUTALE (Guillermo Barrera)
Created By:
Chuck Dixon & Scott McDaniel
First Appearance: Nightwing #22 (July 1998)
Role: Jobber Villain
Group Affiliations: None
PL 8 (101)
STRENGTH
3 STAMINA 4 AGILITY 4
FIGHTING 11 DEXTERITY 5
INTELLIGENCE 0 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Acrobatics 6 (+10)
Athletics 5 (+8)
Expertise (Criminal) 5 (+5)
Expertise (Military) 5 (+5)
Intimidation 5 (+7)
Perception 5 (+6)
Persuasion 4 (+6)
Stealth 2 (+6)
Vehicles 1 (+6)

Advantages:
Equipment (Knives +1- Split), Evasion, Improved Critical (Knives), Ranged Attack 3, Uncanny Dodge

Powers:
"Bladed Costume" (Flaws: Removable) [4]
"Blades" Strength-Damage +1 (Extras: Multiattack 4) (5 points)

Offense:
Unarmed +11 (+3 Damage, DC 18)
Knives +11 (+4 Damage, DC 19)
Initiative +4

Defenses:
Dodge +11 (DC 21), Parry +11 (DC 21), Toughness +4, Fortitude +5, Will +4

Complications:
Motivation (Greed)- Brutale worked as a torturer for the Hascaraguan government, but fled when it fell to Marxists, now working for Blockbuster as a goon.
Enemy (Nightwing)

Total: Abilities: 60 / Skills: 38--19 / Advantages: 7 / Powers: 4 / Defenses: 11 (101)

-Brutale debuted as a mercenary interrogator/torturer workign for Hascaragua (a fictional South American country), but fled after a revolution. He showed up in Nightwing as one of Blockbuster's costumed goons (wearing a weird grey onesie covered in stitches and tiny blades), but was always handily defeated. He is repeatedly seen in background shots in other books, but has never really mattered.

-Overall, Brutale is a simple PL 7.5 knife-fighter. Cheap on points because he's got limited capabilities otherwise, and is just a speed-bump for Nightwing.
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Doctor Darrk

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DOCTOR DARRK (Ebeneezer Darrk)
Created By:
Dennis O'Neil & Neal Adams
First Appearance: Detective Comics #406 (Dec. 1970)
Role: Jobber Villain
Group Affiliations: None

-Doctor Darrk is a random League of Assassins guy, but instead of just focusing on physical power, put care into planning, manipulation, ambushes and deathtraps. Naturally, deathtraps ain't shit to Batman, and so he easily handled the villain. After a falling-out with Ra'a al-Ghul, Darrk kidnapped Talia- Batman trailed them, but was also captured. Batman & Talia worked together to escape Darrk's trap, but he tried one last attempt at killing Batman- Talia instead shot him, sending him into a passing train. Overall, he lasted only five years.

-A pretty good, clever fighter who managed to capture both Talia AND Batman, but a very short-lived villain.
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The Sensei

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THE SENSEI (Han-Son)
Created By:
Neal Adams
First Appearance: Strange Adventures #215 (Oct. 1968)
Role: Jobber Villain
Group Affiliations: None

-The Sensei is an evil agent of the League of Assassins, working for Doctor Darrk. When Darrk died, Sensei was put in charge of things, and struggled with Ra's al-Ghul, the overall commander. He decided to "raise assassination to an art form", using Bronze Tiger as an agent- his men killed Batman's ally Kathy Kane. He and Ra's were buried alive by an earthquake during a fight against one another, but both reappeared. In that story, Sensei revealed he was actually Ra's al-Ghul's FATHER. He stabs a dying Ra's, then fights Batman using a power-boost- Batman cleverly surprises him by dumping both into a Fountain of Youth in Nanda Parbat- the Sensei is killed due to his impure nature, while Batman is healed.
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No mention of Deadman in the Sensei write-up? That's odd, especially considering most of his appearances were connected with him.
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Sidney369 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:53 am No mention of Deadman in the Sensei write-up? That's odd, especially considering most of his appearances were connected with him.
He's mentioned only once in the Wikipedia bio (someone used Sensei's body to kill Deadman), and I've never read Deadman, so it didn't register as important to me. I'd never heard of the Sensei until a week or so ago, so I don't know his story at all.
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Ra's al-Ghul

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RA'S AL-GHUL
Created By:
Dennis O'Neil & Neal Adams
First Appearance: Batman #232 (June 1971)
Role: The Master Villain, Super-Environmentalist
Mental Problems: Delusions of Grandeur, Obsession with Batman, Obsession With Finding an Heir, Misanthropy
PL 10 (181)
STRENGTH
3 STAMINA 4 AGILITY 4
FIGHTING 14 DEXTERITY 5
INTELLIGENCE 7 AWARENESS 6 PRESENCE 5

Skills:
Deception 7 (+12)
Expertise (Arcane Lore) 6 (+13)
Expertise (Science) 5 (+12)
Expertise (History) 8 (+15)
Expertise (Theology & Philosophy) 5 (+12)
Insight 6 (+12)
Intimidation 5 (+12)
Investigation 6 (+12)
Perception 6 (+12)
Persuasion 6 (+11)
Stealth 4 (+8)
Technology 4 (+11)
Vehicles 2 (+7)

Advantages:
Accurate Attack, Beginner's Luck, Benefit 5 (Leader of the Society of Shadows), Diehard, Equipment 11 (Scimitar +3, Bases), Great Endurance, Improved Critical (Sword), Improved Disarm, Leadership, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 5, Seize Initiative, Taunt

Equipment:
"Scimitar" Strength-Damage +3 (Feats: Improved Critical) (4)

Offense:
Unarmed +14 (+3 Damage, DC 17)
Scimitar +14 (+6 Damage, DC 21)
Initiative +4

Defenses:
Dodge +14 (DC 24), Parry +15 (DC 25), Toughness +4, Fortitude +7, Will +11

Complications:
Responsibility (Talia)
Obsession (Getting the Batman as his Heir)

Total: Abilities: 96 / Skills: 70--35 / Advantages: 31 / Powers: 0 / Defenses: 19 (181)

Ra's al-Ghul- The Demon's Head:
-Ra's al-Ghul was the first big new villain of the "Revamped", post-Silver Age Batman- an intellectual, wealthy foe with a ton of connections and knowledge that Bruce Wayne was Batman. He debuted with a great amount of fanfare, simply walking up, going "Batman was obviously rich, so I researched who could have bought all the stuff Batman uses", and forcing the Dark Knight along in a globe-trotting adventure that ends with the two of them dueling with their shirts off. I mean, it's epic.

-The villain, named "The Demon's Head" in Arabic, recruits Batman to save both Robin and Talia al-Ghul, the daughter of Ra's. Despite learning of Batman's identity and just barging into the Batcave one day to announce this, he deeply respects him, to the point of calling him "Detective" as a rule. He's even more impressed when Batman handily susses out that Ra's is a liar- "How could you have known Talia & Robin were kidnapped on the same night?" and noticing that the only times Ubu allowed Batman to precede Ra's into a room was when a trap was there. And so Ra's announces that he wants Batman to be his HEIR. See, he's an environmental extremist, desiring to wipe out most of humanity. He's revealed to be near-ageless, owing to a series of "Lazarus Pits" laid out across the globe- in exchange for temporary insanity, he can regenerate the effects of injury and age... but these effects won't last forever and he wants Batman to continue on. Naturally, Batman refuses, and the two duel with swords, shirtless like macho movie characters of old. It's a swashbuckling adventure and was so impressive they just directly copied it years later for Batman: The Animated Series. So legit that it earned Ra's a role in the first of the Nolanverse films and a leading role among the Batman Rogues.

Further Ra's al-Ghul Stories:
-The character continues to appear over the years, but sporadically- they clearly don't want to over-use him. He shows up in '71, '77, '81, '86 and on, generally for a short arc or something like that. In the '90s, he attempts to create a global plague that Batman has to find the cure for, and in JLA: Tower of Babel, Grant Morrison writes him snatching Batman's protocols for defeating his fellow teammates if they ever went rogue, and breaks the League's trust in Batman and each other. This changes the book big-time, and Batman has to eventually prove his loyalty, earning his way back onto the team with trust. Ra's is later angered when Talia turns on him and works for Lex Luthor, and attempts to get rid of Batman's own heir, Dick Grayson. Later, we find another child of his- Nyssa Raatko, who despises him for abandoning her to his Nazi allies during World War II. Nyssa fatally shoots Ra's, who announces this was his plan all along- to get his daughters to esnure that his daughters would do what it takes to fix the world. Batman cremates Ra's to esnure he won't return.

-Ra's remains gone for years, but returns by possessing the body of another. He attempts to possess his own heir, Damian Wayne (the son of Talia & Bruce), but fails, eventually possessing an albino son of his named Dusan. However, he gets too arrogant and Batman defeats him and has him committed to Arkham while under a false identity, having orderlies heavily medicate him- it takes a while for them to miss a dose, allowing Ra's to return. Later, when he realizes that Batman has died in Final Crisis, he takes on Nightwing in the classic "Shirtless Swordfight", losing and leaving the sword as a sign of respect. Meanwhile, Tim Drake infiltrates the League of Assassins, destroying it from within- this impresses Ra's, who declares him "Detective" and moves on. This is where things leave off before continuity is altered by the "New 52".

-So overall, Ra's al-Ghul is kind of one of those guys who's in a lot of forgettable stories and hasn't really done a big thing for a long time, but banks a lot of past success, to the point where he's eternally credible no matter what. His status as a wealthy mental match for Batman makes him as big a deal as anybody- more predictable than say, the Joker, but with hands that reach across the globe owing to his deep pockets and conspiracies, running the League of Assassins and the Demon's Head organizations.

Ra's al-Ghul's Abilities:
-Ra's al-Ghul is a beast on points for good reason, having a massive organization with bases, etc. behind him. He's actually a match for Batman in a swordfight, and is just as smart, just a little less focused & skilled at the various things Bruce has had to excel in just for being a solo character. Ubu is no pushover either, being a rather capable henchman. All in all, I'd say Ra's is a bit less a threat than The Joker to Batman personally, which is about right.
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Ubu

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UBU
Created By:
Dennis O'Neil & Neal Adams
First Appearance: Batman #232 (June 1971)
Role: Big Mook
Mental Problems: Arrogance
PL 7 (79)
STRENGTH
4 STAMINA 5 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 9 DEXTERITY 1
INTELLIGENCE 0 AWARENESS 0 PRESENCE 0

Skills:
Acrobatics 3 (+6)
Deception 2 (+2)
Expertise (Bodyguard) 4 (+4)
Intimidation 6 (+6)
Perception 4 (+4)
Vehicles 3 (+4)

Advantages:
Fast Grab, Improved Critical (Unarmed), Improved Pin, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 7

Offense:
Unarmed +9 (+4 Damage, DC 19)
Initiative +3

Defenses:
Dodge +10 (DC 20), Parry +9 (DC 19), Toughness +5, Fortitude +7, Will +4

Complications:
Responsibility (Ra's al-Ghul)

Total: Abilities: 44 / Skills: 22--11 / Advantages: 11 / Powers: 0 / Defenses: 13 (79)

-Ubu ends up being pretty forgettable in the Bat-Mythos- it turns out that this is an entire TRIBE of guys, all of whom have sworn loyalty to Ra's al-Ghul, and thus serve him. When one dies, another replaces him, leading to a long, unbroken line of muscular manservants. Ubus are tough and strong, but very "regular" as threats go.
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Ra's al-Ghul is a great addition to Batman's rogues, and interesting in that he kind of legitimizes Batman as an A-List superhero. Even though Bruce got up to all kinds of world saving shenanigans in the Silver Age alongside Superman or the Justice League, for the most part Bruce's solo stuff was against non-powered costumed criminals who, at best, had a gimmick and mostly spend their time robbing banks.

Ra's meanwhile is not a criminal in a costume, he's a full on Bond villain with a plan to murder billions and take over the world. He also has the experience, intelligence, skill, resources and ruthlessness to pull it off. He tests Batman on every level and makes the Dark Knight up his game. Ra's is such an excellent throwback to old Fu Manchu style pulp villains that I'm sure Doug Moench continues to kick himself that he didn't come up with the villain. Ra's was a game changer, no mistake.
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Talia al-Ghul

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TALIA AL-GHUL
Created By:
Dennis O'Neil & Bob Brown
First Appearance: Detective Comics #411 (May 1971)
Role: The Femme Fatale
Mental Problems: Obsession with Batman, Dutifulness to Ra's al-Ghul
PL 8 (119)
STRENGTH
1 STAMINA 3 AGILITY 5
FIGHTING 10 DEXTERITY 5
INTELLIGENCE 3 AWARENESS 3 PRESENCE 4

Skills:
Acrobatics 6 (+11)
Athletics 7 (+8)
Deception 3 (+7, +9 Attractive)
Expertise (Spy) 7 (+10)
Insight 4 (+7)
Investigation 4 (+7)
Perception 6 (+9)
Persuasion 3 (+7, +9 Attractive)
Stealth 4 (+9)
Technology 2 (+5)
Vehicles 2 (+7)

Advantages:
Attractive, Daze (Persuasion), Equipment 3 (Spy Gear, Gun), Evasion, Jack-of-All-Trades, Ranged Attack 5

Powers:
"Martial Arts" Strength-Damage +1 [1]

Offense:
Unarmed +10 (+2 Damage, DC 17)
Gun +10 (+5 Damage, DC 20)
Initiative +5

Defenses:
Dodge +12 (DC 22), Parry +12 (DC 22), Toughness +3, Fortitude +5, Will +6

Complications:
Relationship (Batman)
Relationship (Father, Ra's al-Ghul)- Talia must follow her father's will, even if it sets her against her beloved.

Total: Abilities: 68 / Skills: 48--24 / Advantages: 12 / Powers: 1 / Defenses: 14 (119)

-Talia is pretty much the OTHER classic Femme Fatale in Bat-lore, seducing Bruce on more than one occasion, and manipulating him the rest of the time thanks to Daddy's will. Personally, I prefer Selina, but comics keeps getting weird with her, and at least Talia remains pretty consistent over time. She appears once, acting like a typical Bond Girl or "Fu Manchu's Daughter" kind of character- a love interest who's a bit on the dark side. The very next issue after she debuts reveals that she is the daughter of Ra's al-Ghul, who intends to make the "Detective" his heir. "My daughter, Talia, LOVES you" he flatly states. Talia mourns the loss when her "Beloved" rejects the leadership of the League of Assassins. The idea now is that she's torn between loyalty to her father and love for Batman- this comes to a head in Son of the Demon, a 1987 graphic novel by Mike W. Barr. Batman helps Ra's al-Ghul fight the assassin who killed Talia's mother, and Bruce & Talia are married, Talia becoming pregnant. But Talia, realizing that Batman will never stop having to defend her, dissolves the marriage and tells him she's had a miscarriage. A saddened Bruce leaves her... and later writers leave it deliberately ambiguous as to whether or not she was lying about the baby's fate.

-Talia doesn't appear all that much in the '90s, but she is shown to be disgusted when her father names Bane as his new heir- Talia find Bane to be merely a "cunning animal" compared to her more cultured Beloved. She later expresses delight when Bane seemingly dies, long since having rejected him. She is named LexCorp CEO when Lex Luthor becomes President of the United States, and secretly feeds information about his misdeeds to Superman, ultimately leaving him penniless when she signs LexCorp over to Bruce Wayne. Eventually, Ra's al-Ghul himself is killed by Talia's forgotten half-sister- this is part of his master plan, as he wanted his daughters to unite and lead his various organizations- she somehow forgives Nyssa for torturing her to lure Ra's in, and disavows her love of Bruce.

-Talia thus becomes a bigger-name super-villain in the DCU, joining Alexander Luthor's Secret Society as a major member. When Nyssa is killed by Cassandra Cain, Talia takes over everything Ra's had. And eventually, an even bigger twist- Damian Wayne debuts, being the very same son that Talia had with Bruce. It's revealed she set him up for adoption before finding him once more. And also that she had drugged and raped Bruce instead of having a consensual marriage with him, because Morrison had some "shaky details" about Son of the Demon (translation: shrooms and an editor who wasn't doing his GODDAMN JOB). Damian disobeys his mother, leaving her to be with Batman and later Dick Grayson- Talia disowns him, and even has a clone of his KILL Damian for a while. She's also revealed to have been part of why Jason Todd survived his beating at the hands of the Joker, but he betrays her to save Batman- Talia is then seemingly killed by a rogue agent. Naturally, she & Damian are both resurrected by Ra's al-Ghul as soon as Morrison had finished his story, because DC still wanted to play with those characters. She is resurrected with no memories, but eventually rejoins the League of Assassins to take on some random other villain before continuity ends. She's in the "New 52" stuff, but not mcuh.

-Talia a PL 8 with considerable talent at the Spy game, but she's a ways below Bruce on every level, and doesn't even make her full caps. She's capable (especially against Mooks), but in the long run, she falls short of many Bat-Rogues. Intellectually, she has really made gains in the last few years, though.
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Ra's also fits in well for every kind of possible story, from a simple terrorism plague plot to having heat lasers in space. But he's also an example of just how complex a lot of Batman's villains are. His end goal is not, in itself, bad. He feels like the world doesn't have enough resources, that there's overpopulation, and that if mankind is going to survive it needs to learn to be careful with what it has. It's just all of his "means" to the "end" are so outrageously over the top, it puts him square into the villain category, even though he and characters like him (Poison Ivy, Anarchy, a few others) are fighting what they see as a bigger crime than anything Batman handles.
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Re: Jab’s Builds (Hugo Strange! Mr. Zsasz! Spoiler! Ra's al-Ghul!)

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Talia (and the story that introduced her) was very obviously inspired by the James Bond movie On Her Majesty's Secret Service and the writers pretty unashamedly borrowed heavily from that story.

(For those who don't remember, it's James Bond heading to and infiltrating a massive impregnable mountain fortress headed by a criminal mastermind and staffed by this powerful international criminal syndicate, and while there he romances and eventually marries Teresa Draco, the daughter of said criminal mastermind.)

But hey, it worked because people liked globe-hopping adventure stories at the time, and Talia and Ra's allowed Batman to take part in similar stories. But, as a love interest, she's...kind of waned on me in recent years, and I think I pretty much blame Damian. Before Damian was born, Talia was torn between her father and her love of Batman, something that kept her sometimes acting on the side of evil as her father manipulated her, but other times working with Batman on the side of good. She was caught in the orbits of these two powerful men, and never really had her own identity...at least until the Most Wasted Character Ever was introduced and then eliminated almost immediately, taking Ra's Al-Ghul with her, and Talia took over the League.

The loss of her father (and sister) and the sudden arrival of Damian on the scene kind of permanently put Talia in Batman's orbit as opposed to her father and his legacy's, since the key driving drama of the story now was whether the boy was going to follow in Batman's footsteps or Talia's. And for that to work, Talia had to shift more towards the side of evil than the previously had. She'd dabbled a bit here and there in joining evil permanently, such as Alexander Luthor's Society and such, but it wasn't until Damian was on the scene that she was free to push the envelope more in how evil her acts were.

But I don't think it was until I realized just how little identity she had outside of "girl caught between her father and her love interest" that I tended to prefer her being out of the spotlight in lieu of other characters like Catwoman, Silver St. Cloud, and others who had their own identity, goals, and personality.
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Damien has ruined Ra's and Talia for me. I wish the little shit would be wiped out like Mopee.
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Ken wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:57 am Damien has ruined Ra's and Talia for me. I wish the little shit would be wiped out like Mopee.
I wouldn't say Damian ruined anybody for me. The character is interesting in the sense that each Robin portrays a different aspect of Batman with different circumstances (tragedy with care and love provided from day one, tragedy with care and love provided too late, all the skills being provided without tragedy then deciding to be a hero), and Damian is "all the skills Batman has learned taken in at a young age, and instead of fighting for justice, using them to fight for evil, without a desire to save lives." It's rather telling that Damian didn't even become a Robin until after Bruce's "death" during Final Crisis, when it was Dick Grayson who was able to convince Damian that there was a better way to use his skills and get him to reject his mother's teachings, to value life (somewhat) and provide the same network of care and family that Bruce had previously provided him.

And having Talia be a villain in pure contrast to Bruce isn't bad, it's just...there was already someone else taking that mantle from Ra's Al-Ghul, and DC absolutely WASTED their opportunity to use her.
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Nyssa Raatko

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NYSSA RAATKO (aka Nyssa al-Ghul)
Created By:
Greg Rucka & Klaus Janson
First Appearance: Detective Comics #783 (Aug. 2003)
Role: Suddenly-Introduced Daughter
Group Affiliations: None

-Nyssa debuted in 2003 as another adult child of Ra's al-Ghul. The half-sister of Talia, she was born during the Russian adventures of Ra's in the 18th century. Enamored by the "romantic stories" her mother told her of her father, Nyssa went out in search of him. Impressed by her skills and determination, Ra's made her his right hand associate, and even allowed her to use his Lazarus Pits, enabling her to live to modern times. However, she grew to dislike her father's genocidal plans to fix the world, and abandoned his organization in the early 20th century. Disappointed by accepting, Ra's disowns her but doesn't hunt her down. Nyssa is captured by Germans during World War II and her entire family dies in the concentration camps, which renders Nyssa infertile as well- her father refuses to help, earning him her hatred.

-Her torture having broken her, Nyssa is unable to feel anything, and desires to make the entire world suffer as she had- she brainwashes Talia to make an attempt on their father's life, and then nearly assassinates Superman using kryptonite bullets- her hope is that this moment of grief will shock her into feeling something again (... did she forget that he had died already once?). Batman saves Superman, but Ra's al-Ghul dies... but reveals that this was one of his fondest desires- that his daughters would rise up and replace him. Begrudgingly admitting that he's right, Nyssa & Talia form an alliance and rule the League of Assassins as one. However, Nyssa is short-lived- she tries to get Cassandra Cain to join her, but fails, and is then killed in a car bomb, probably set by the League. This is never really explained and it's like they were all "Nah, this is dumb- get rid of her", deciding they didn't want to complicate the al-Ghul backstory any longer.
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Jabroniville wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:31 amher hope is that this moment of grief will shock her into feeling something again (... did she forget that he had died already once?).
... even more than that, why will she feel grief for killing Superman? If she can't feel anything, and hasn't been able to since before he showed up, why does she care about what happens to him?

And what IS it with these people and inflicting sterility on women? It was novel when Peter O'Donnell did it, but that was half a century ago!
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