I think there's some truth in both your statements. While I enjoyed the original Star Wars trilogy as a kid and I still think they're good movies, I believe that there's an argument to be made about how the setting tend to be extremely polarized. One of my biggest issues with the main storyline of the franchise (i.e. the "numbered" movies) is how everything seem to hinge on just the actions of Jedi and Sith. Admitedly, it's something that is much more apparent with the prequel and sequel trilogy, but it's oftne pervasive of the entire franchise.Ares wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 6:47 amBatgirl III wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 6:17 amI was never a fan of Star Wars, honestly, I mean I like laserswords and spaceships as much as any nerd... But, even as a little kid, I could see how hackneyed and phoned in the stories were.
Star Wars was just a farm boy rescuing a princess from the black knight’s tower, with help from the smug-but-secretly-good thief and the kindly-old-wizard. Seriously, it’s the every third story in the big pink Grimm’s Fairy Tales book I got for Christmas when I was four. I’ve never understood just why the rabidly loyal fans were so taken by it.
I mean, to each their own, but I’ve never been able to grok the love people have for the franchise. But, like, I’d totally start a bar brawl to defend the honor of my beloved Batman Family, so I guess I can at least feel empathy if not sympathy.
Marvel Studios has pumped out nineteen MCU films and oodles of tv spinoffs, but only a handful have actually been sequels to each other. They’ve also been very good at mixing up the genres and storytelling techniques used. Iron Man is a very different film in terms of tone, pacing, and plot than Doctor Strange or Daredevil and those are equally different from each other.
Even if you’re being generous, it’s hard not to see that there’s basically two plots that make up like half the movies in the SW franchise: ANH = RotJ = TPM = TFA = Rog1; ESB = AotC = TLJ.
I really cannot blame audiences for shrugging their shoulders at Solo and saying “Meh. I’ll see it when it’s on Amazon Prime in October.”
I'd say it's a bit disingenuous to say that there are only two plots in the entire Star Wars franchise. That'd be like me saying that the plot of over a third of the Marvel films is "arrogant person learns humility,becomes a hero, then defeats a supervillain", while another third is "messed up family unit learns to work together, then defeats a supervillains".
There's no issue in liking or disliking Star Wars, that's not something worth debating. I just don't think you can site the problem with the franchise being oversaturation when said franchise has endured this long, but when other franchises have made more movies in 10 years than Star Wars has in 40.
Personally my current favorite movie is Rogue One, because it's the only movie in the franchise that gave me the feeling of a galaxy at war. Shit happened, people died, because something had to be done.