[SPOILERS] Avengers Infinity War: Part 1

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Re: [SPOILERS] Avengers Infinity War: Part 1

Post by Batgirl III » Mon May 28, 2018 12:52 am

So, I decided to do something that many Social Justice Warriors seem to avoid: I looked at the facts and did some math.

Not counting Thanos or his "Children of Thanos" henchmen, we have thirty-four heroes or prominent allies. Of these we see that twenty-four are men and ten are women (29%); If we play the game of completely ignoring a character's ethnicity (or, y'know, species) and only look at the actors potraying them then we have 19 Whites (55%), 11 Blacks (33%), and 4 Asians (12%).

Twelve of the twenty-four chracters with male actors die on screen, seven are confirmed to be alive at the end, five are unknown.
Four of the ten chracters with female actors die on screen, three are confirmed to be alive at the end, three are unknown.

So male actors had a 50% death rate, female actors only a 40% death rate.

For Black characters six are dead (54%), two unknown (18%), with only three confirmed as alive (25%) at the end of the film.
For White characters eight are dead (42%), four unknown (21%), with only seven confirmed as alive (37%) at the end of the film.
For Asian characters two are dead (50%), two unknown (50%), with none confirmed as alive (0%) at the end of the film.
  • Male Actors
  • Dave Bautista ( Drax the Destroyer )
  • Jacob Batalon ( Ned )
  • Paul Bettany ( Vision )
  • Chadwick Boseman ( T'Challa / Black Panther )
  • Don Cheadle ( James Rhodes / War Machine )
  • Bradley Cooper ( Rocket )
  • Benedict Cumberbatch ( Stephen Strange / Dr. Strange )
  • Vin Diesel ( Groot )
  • Peter Dinklage ( Eitri )
  • Robert Downey Jr. ( Tony Stark / Iron Man )
  • Winston Duke ( M'Baku / Man-Ape )
  • Idris Elba ( Heimdall )
  • Chris Evans ( Steve Rogers / Captain America )
  • Chris Hemsworth ( Thor )
  • Tom Hiddleston ( Loki )
  • Tom Holland ( Peter Parker / Spider-Man )
  • Samuel L. Jackson ( Nick Fury )
  • Anthony Mackie ( Sam Wilson / Falcon )
  • William Hurt ( Thaddeus Ross )
  • Mark Ruffalo ( Bruce Banner / Hulk )
  • Sebastian Stan ( Bucky Barnes / Winter Soldier )
  • Benicio del Toro ( Taneleer Tivan / The Collector )
  • Chris Pratt ( Peter Quill / Star-Lord )
  • Benedict Wong ( Wong )
  • Female Actors
  • Karen Gillan ( Nebula )
  • Danai Gurira ( Okoye )
  • Scarlett Johansson ( Natasha Romanoff / Black Widow )
  • Florence Kasumba ( Ayo )
  • Pom Klementieff ( Mantis )
  • Elizabeth Olsen ( Wanda Maximoff / Scarlet Witch )
  • Gwyneth Paltrow ( Pepper Potts )
  • Zoe Saldana ( Gamora )
  • Cobie Smulders ( Maria Hill )
  • Letitia Wright ( Shuri )
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Re: [SPOILERS] Avengers Infinity War: Part 1

Post by HalloweenJack » Mon May 28, 2018 2:16 am

just got back from watching this again.

Just as good the second time around.

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Re: [SPOILERS] Avengers Infinity War: Part 1

Post by Ken » Mon May 28, 2018 2:14 pm

Batgirl III wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 12:52 am
So, I decided to do something that many Social Justice Warriors seem to avoid: I looked at the facts and did some math.

Not counting Thanos or his "Children of Thanos" henchmen, we have thirty-four heroes or prominent allies. Of these we see that twenty-four are men and ten are women (29%); If we play the game of completely ignoring a character's ethnicity (or, y'know, species) and only look at the actors potraying them then we have 19 Whites (55%), 11 Blacks (33%), and 4 Asians (12%).

For Black characters six are dead (54%), two unknown (18%), with only three confirmed as alive (25%) at the end of the film.
For White characters eight are dead (42%), four unknown (21%), with only seven confirmed as alive (37%) at the end of the film.
For Asian characters two are dead (50%), two unknown (50%), with none confirmed as alive (0%) at the end of the film.
Since Dave Bautista is Greek (mother's side) and Filipino (father's side) and Pom Klementieff is Korean (mother's side) and French/Russian (father's side) how did you count them?
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Re: [SPOILERS] Avengers Infinity War: Part 1

Post by Batgirl III » Mon May 28, 2018 2:47 pm

Personally, I wouldn’t play these silly categorization games to begin with. But, I’m trying to rebut the arguments of people who do... and they all seem to operate on the “one drop rule” used by racists throughout history. For example, Pres. Barrack Obama and Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, are always considered “Black,” not “White,” by these folks. I don’t know why.

So Batalon, Bautista, Klementieff, and Wong are the four. Asians by my count, using the silly progressives’ identity politics rules. Mantis and Drax both die, Wong and Ned are unknowns.
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Re: [SPOILERS] Avengers Infinity War: Part 1

Post by Ken » Mon May 28, 2018 6:45 pm

Thank you for the clarifications. :)
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Re: [SPOILERS] Avengers Infinity War: Part 1

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Re: [SPOILERS] Avengers Infinity War: Part 1

Post by Ares » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:57 pm

I just went see the movie again with my family. Loved it just as much the second go round. On a second re-watch, the only part I found questionable was the fact that it was Peter Parker that came up with the plan to shoot a sentient being out into space where they died horribly in the vacuum of space. Yes, this is a completely evil being dedicated to the murder of half the universe, but it's like watching Batman kill someone, it's just not right. Though they mitigate the idea by having Tony be the one to actually airlock the guy, it was Peter's plan.

Other than that, damned amazing film.

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Re: [SPOILERS] Avengers Infinity War: Part 1

Post by Batgirl III » Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:10 pm

I’m going to assume that rookie hero Spidey just didn’t quite realize how lethal space really is. I mean, sure, he’s a smart kid and a science nerd, so intellectually he knows that the vacuum of space is deadly. But, between pop culture’s overwhelming tendency to depict space as just “more sky” and the fact that only a minute or two earlier Peter had been out there himself... Well, he just kinda forgot.
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Re: [SPOILERS] Avengers Infinity War: Part 1

Post by Ken » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:04 am

It could also be that Peter assumed this alien who arrived on Earth without protective space gear might be resilient enough to survive the harshness of space, and thought he'd just be trapping him.
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Re: [SPOILERS] Avengers Infinity War: Part 1

Post by Batgirl III » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:12 am

Spider-Man had also seen this guy shrug off everything that he, Iron Man, Dr. Strange, and Wong could throw at him. Back when they had the homefield advantage. Now they were on his turf and one wizard down... They didn't have many options left to end the threat that Darth Squidward posed.
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Re: [SPOILERS] Avengers Infinity War: Part 1

Post by HalloweenJack » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:10 pm

also screw that guy.

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