Horsenhero wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:38 am
Ares wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:14 am
Horsenhero wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:38 pm
it wasn't the fans, but rather Geoff Johns that demanded his rehabilitation.
I'm guessing you never heard of HEAT, or Hal's Emerald Advancement Team. Once Hal went full on Parallax, Hal's fans formed a group to try and get him brought back. They basically had a near- decade long combination letter writing campaign and online petition signing, as well as posting on the official DC Message Board.
Now, you can argue how successful they were, but we did see DC reverse their position on their being a single GL, then we got Hal Jordan brought back as the Spectre, we saw the Guardians and Kilowog brought back to life, and basically the return of the Green Lantern Corps. All before Geoff Johns got involved and brought Hal back as a GL.
So yeah, Johns brought Hal back, but there was a concentrated effort by fans to let DC know they wanted Hal back.
Nah, I never heard of HEAT and I would have mocked the mercilessly if I had.
Why? I mean, don't get me wrong, there were segments of that fandom that did deserve ridicule, the same kind of idiots on either side of the Gamer Gate fiasco that start sending threats to people they don't like. But for the most part they were just fans of a character who had a long history at DC that didn't care for him and his mythos to be completely destroyed and the character turned into a gibbering madman. If they hadn't done so much to show that there was still interest in the character, Hal could have remained a villain, remained dead or remained the Spectre.
While it's harder to ignore the haters and whiners and misogynists and racists now, I still manage to do so fairly successfully. Sure I've had to block more than a few people on DA for taking offense at my support of women in the industry, but it hasn't hurt any of my own projects or paying commissions to do so.
Well, I'm glad you manage to avoid the hating-whining-misogynist-racist segments of the internet, know how to use a block button, support women in the industry (which is an admirable cause), and apparently pay people for work they do for you. But apart from virtue signaling, that's not really relevant.
At the end of the day, DC has the comic industry's #1 serial sexual harasser and predator on their payroll (Eddie Berganza) as a group editor on the Superman titles, so hiring Bendis seems pretty harmless by comparison. Heck, if anything maybe he'll help marginalize EB further, which can't be anything but good.
Technically, no, they don't. Eddie has been suspended
, possibly soon to be fired
from DC. But even if that wasn't the case, it'd be somewhat disingenuous to say that "Company X already has Horrible Person Y working for them, them hiring Pretty Bad Person J isn't a big deal". That just means that DC might have questionable hiring practices.
The problems people have with Bendis (and Hickman) are completely different than those of Eddie. If the allegations are true, the problems with Eddie are much, MUCH worse, and have actual legal repercussions for his actions. But those problems are due to Eddie being a terrible human being. The problems with Bendis is because of his actual work and the impact he's had on his previous company.
Bendis and Hickman both had a major influence on the direction of the Marvel universe for years, and the train wreck they left behind has people worried about what could happen at DC. DC is still trying to dig itself out of the mess that was the Nu-52, and while Rebirth was a course correction, it hasn't completely fixed all of its issues either. I mean, the pair of them literally broke the Marvel Universe and that combined with their own writing quirks has people understandably concerned. Now, if both of them are only given writing duties on books that play to their strengths and not allowed to really shape the direction of the company, this could be fine. Bendis might work fine on a Suicide Squad or Outsiders-type book, Hickman could finally do his Legion of Superheroes story, but if they're given more influence than that, a DCU that hasn't completely fixed itself might wind up getting a different flavor of Disassembled.