None of these movies were set during the Troubles, let alone the height of them. There is more to North Ireland than the Troubles. Setting things in North Ireland and not mentioning the Troubles is fine. Obviously. Trying to depict what North Irish life was like during the Troubles while omitting the Troubles is either ignorant or agenda-driven. To make a more pointed example, it's like setting a piece in 1943 Germany without mentioning that there was a bit of a war goong on. Again, I specifically mentioned time frame, so I'm not sure why you're being dishonest here.Batgirl III wrote: ↑Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:44 amNorthern Ireland in the 1970s is a far cry from Hoboken, New Jersey in 2018... But there's actually a fair few Northern Irish films -- as in they are about Northern Ireland, were made in Northern Ireland, star mostly Northern Irish talent, and mostly have Northen Irish behind the camera crews -- that have absolutely nothing to do with "The Troubles." Just off the top of my head there's With or Without You (about a married couple trying to have children), Mad About Mambo (where a teenage boy decides to learn samba dancing to get better at playing football), Cherrybomb (a teenage sex-party-rave dramedy), Battle of the Bone (a zombie flick), and Best (a biopic about soccer star George Best). I'll confess to not knowing anything about Northern Ireland's comic book industry. Hell, I couldn't even say for certain if they have one. I mean, I assume they must have something, but I don't know... So I'm afraid that films are the closest comparison I can make.
If I said I wanted to represent Martians in comic books so that they see themselves in that medium, and to inform the rest of the audience what the experience of being a young Martian is like, and the comic I create has a grayish-green spoiled, self-indulgent Portland Progressive who goes on madcap adventures and worries about what the human children think of xhu, but carefully omits any reference to xhu's odd and frowned-upon feeding requirements, what it's like growing up in a society where no one even understands xhu's species' mating practices, or how glad xhu is to have escaped before becoming involved in the horrific war enveloping all of Syrtis Major Planum... that is good news for people who like madcap adventures, but have I accomplished my stated goal of informing people what the Martian immigrant experience is really like? Or have I maybe misrepresented it? Might said misrepresentation have something to do with my position on Martian immigration?Batgirl III wrote: ↑Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:44 amI very much doubt the creative team behind Ms. Marvel has said they want to make a comic book about the subject of al-Wahhābiya terrorism, radicalization of American-born Muslims, or other such issues. I'm willing to bet all they've ever said is that they want to make a superhero book where the Muslim lead character deals with the standard comic book tropes of balancing a normal life with being a superhero with the twist that she's a Muslim daughter of immigrant parents. Which, let's be clear, is a perfectly normal thing in this day and age. The suburb where I went to high school has a population that's around 30% Arab, mostly Chaldean Catholics but a not insignificant number of Iraqi and Kuwaiti Muslims were their too. (The Muslim community was centered around Dearborn, the Chaldeans around Warren, we were kinda in the middle.) My graduating class had fifteen Muslims and thirty Chaldeans, out of 100 kids.)
Yes, I'm aware of what they are. By all means, kick their asses. I'm just not sure how they're relevant to the current discussion. None of the concepts brought up until now concern them.Batgirl III wrote: ↑Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:44 amJemaah Islamiyah, or rather al-Jamāʿah al-Islāmiyyah [but that's much harder to type on my phone], is an extremist al-Wahhābiya terrorist group active across Southeast Asia. The Bali nightclub bombing of October 2002 was when they came to the attention of most Americans. I've mostly dealt with them in the context of investigating piracy and missing ships in the Strait of Malacca between Malaysia and Sumatra. Many, but not all, of the pirates and maritime gangs in the region are associated with Jemaah Islamiyah. I've been involved in two firefights with these guys in the past.)
And no, it was never intended to be that book. Instead, it's the book that replaces the reality of those issues by pretending they don't exist. Actively (according to statents) attempting to persuade the audience that there is no cultural difference beyond the superficial.