What's new with the big two: Marvel and DC Comics discussion thread.

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Re: What's new with the big two: Marvel and DC Comics discussion thread.

Post by Voltron64 » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:03 pm

Someone suggested some tweaks to the New Warriors characters.

Also, a redesign of Snowflake and Safe Space by someone else.

Or you could also call the two Fractal (because since power is generating a shuriken which is snowflake shaped, that form is called a fractal) and Safeguard.

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Re: What's new with the big two: Marvel and DC Comics discussion thread.

Post by saint_matthew » Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:38 pm

Well will you look at that. Another case of Marvels boomers missing the point with an application of "well met fellow teen"

https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/12411 ... 15776?s=09

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Post by greycrusader » Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:00 pm

Oh cripes...you know, Marvel has a history of doing these "topical" characters/comics which turn out to be utter embarrassments.They do this at least once per decade.

Remember U.S.-1! From when trucking was cool?

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Post by Shock » Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:11 pm

If you think about it, Cloak and Dagger started off as "topical" characters. Hell, even Iron Man sort of was. So they don't all come out as failures.

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Re: What's new with the big two: Marvel and DC Comics discussion thread.

Post by Cinder » Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:44 pm

Scots Dragon wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:19 am
Cinder wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:13 am
Scots Dragon wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:54 pm
That's easily one of the worst things I've ever seen. It's just outright horrifically transphobic and insensitive.

Snowflake is an insult. And not one that a pair of cis men have the ability to 'reclaim'.
Sincerely, could you elaborate? I thought snowflake was just a general insult for someone who thinks they are unique but is not. I understand that the insult also has come to be used against one who is easily offended, especially if that person is perceived as being left politically. However I am unaware of it being a gender or sexuality insult.
saint_matthew wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:30 am
Scots Dragon wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:54 pm
That's easily one of the worst things I've ever seen. It's just outright horrifically transphobic and insensitive.
How exactly is it transphobic? don't get me wrong, this is the most "well met fellow teens" boomer misfire ever, but how is it transphobic exactly?
It is used very frequently as a specific insult against nonbinary people, which the character is apparently supposed to be, because of the common perception that nonbinary people are just trying to be unique for attention. They are not; they simply have a different experience of their gender.

It's also used against people on the aromantic and asexual spectra.

It'd be like calling a superhero F*ggot for fuck's sake.
I was not aware of that aspect. Admittedly, I don't hang around on sites or in places were people are intentionally getting insulted based on their gender identity.

I know the discussion was shut down, just wanted to say thanks for the answer.

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Re: What's new with the big two: Marvel and DC Comics discussion thread.

Post by saint_matthew » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:54 am

So Diamond just shut down due to the Wuhan Flu, which means comic shops will have zero new product on the shelf. This could very well end the western comic book industry.

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Post by Shock » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:10 pm

I think that's being a bit dramatic. Missing a month or two isn't going to destroy the industry

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Re: What's new with the big two: Marvel and DC Comics discussion thread.

Post by Scots Dragon » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:59 am

Being overdramatic about the upcoming death of the comic-book industry due to [insert cause of the week here] has been a popular pastime for certain online pundits for a while now. Whole bunch of them on YouTube like to blame the 'social justice warriors', and various modern comics that feature women or people of colour as protagonists.


In any case.

First: it's called the coronavirus, or COVID-19. It isn't even a type of flu. And while it was discovered in Wuhan, there's evidence that certain more severe seasonal 'flu' symptoms from the previous October in the United States may have been earlier cases of the virus. The World Health Organisation stopped naming diseases after their place of discovery for a reason, since it both encourages 'I'm not susceptible because I'm from [X]!' type thinking, and encourages retaliation against those who are from that region for supposedly 'spreading' the virus.

Secondly, DC Comics is already looking at replacing Diamond with a multi-distributor model, so there are actually plans in place. This is actually something that the industry has needed to do for a long while. A monopoly has been severely unhealthy for the industry, and is largely one of the biggest reasons why comic-book distribution and figures have been as fucked as they have lately. It's hard to tell how well your comic-books are doing when you're relying on a monopolised model that really only tracks physical comic-book preorders by dedicated comic-book stores, and not the actual sales of issues to customers or the performance of those comics as trade paperbacks in other bookstores.

Breaking the Diamond monopoly and replacing it with a better distribution model would quite possibly save the western comic-book industry if they play their cards right
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