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Eh... I don't care. Your choice really. Not like it affect their use :)
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Paging Loneclaw. There are people who need killing.
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Eeep!
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Even in the end, when it wasn't possible to survive the attack, guard 1 managed to roll a nat 20 and almost survived. Sadly, he is a minion and is now down for the count. I was really tempted to make him the leader since the actual leader went out like a punk, but I resisted.

Also, I thought I would clarify what happened with the dealer. He didn't get and action and a movement. I figured I would let him try to move at the door in hopes he would hit the button. It is the sort of wiggle room I would give you if you ask. That said, I decided that the luck roll would go:

16-20: hits button, door opens
6-15: Misses
1-5: falls into the protective grasp of you guys.

Feel free to ask for this sort of leniency. I will give it... with the proper luck roll of course :twisted:
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Breach ignored the dealer because I assumed he isn't armed.
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Sure... he isn't armed :twisted:
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Ok, so for turning people into water what about this:
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I don't believe Permanent works here in that way. Continuous is probably the best you can get with an affliction.
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Permanent is the same as continuous, functionally. The real problem is the missing Cumulative. Without Cumulative or Progressive, being Continuous doesn't do anything. Once per minute, healing happens. Only Cumulative or Progressive ensures that the healing never happens.

That's RAW. Handwaving is always legal too. :)
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nowhereman2 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:44 am
Camus wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:06 pm Well, on the rules of transform subject, getting extra mass does not mean getting a stronger effect, as the save will still be pretty low if you dont buy ranks. Not that it wouldnt be abused, but still not a biiiig game breaking thing.
oh, and I ported Scylla to my first post in this thread
Objects don't get a save (as they have no will, fortitude, etc...). Also, transform cannot be used on people. The Hero's Manual is actually explicit on that. If you intend to use this power to liquify a person, you need to get an alt effect, affliction limited: third degree only, (transform into water). If this is your goal, at the end of the current encounter, I was planning on giving you guys either a HP or a PP (your choice).

Edit: (Note: in order to be useful, your affliction would need to be permanent. I would probably allow it, given that I could choose to have one or two characters be able to resist it after transformation. Can't have you turn the BBEG into a puddle now. That would be boring.)
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Camus wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:56 pm
nowhereman2 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:44 am
Camus wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:06 pm Well, on the rules of transform subject, getting extra mass does not mean getting a stronger effect, as the save will still be pretty low if you dont buy ranks. Not that it wouldnt be abused, but still not a biiiig game breaking thing.
oh, and I ported Scylla to my first post in this thread
Objects don't get a save (as they have no will, fortitude, etc...). Also, transform cannot be used on people. The Hero's Manual is actually explicit on that. If you intend to use this power to liquify a person, you need to get an alt effect, affliction limited: third degree only, (transform into water). If this is your goal, at the end of the current encounter, I was planning on giving you guys either a HP or a PP (your choice).

Edit: (Note: in order to be useful, your affliction would need to be permanent. I would probably allow it, given that I could choose to have one or two characters be able to resist it after transformation. Can't have you turn the BBEG into a puddle now. That would be boring.)
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I am doing something wrong if I am beloved. Technically, RAW states that a third degree must be healed from once every minute with no check. The recovery section also makes no mention of a check. The progressive extra states that whenever the target fails a check, the condition worsens. In essence, RAW, there is no way to make this more permanent than it already is with the extras on hand. I could treat this exactly as is and the power would work by turning people into water for one minute until they 'get better'. If I follow RAW, this makes little sense. That said, rather than using permanent (which admittedly isn't meant for this purpose), we could use benefit. The benefit would read "A successfully transformed character gets to attempt to resist the effect at the end of their turn. On the third failure, the effect becomes permanent and the character dies."
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That's why I said handwaving is the easiest solution. The transform affliction is not bound in any way so why can't turn someone into an object that does not get 1 minute recoveries because they're objects. I do believe it is meant to be determined by GM whether a permanent transformation is allowable or not.
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Cool
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Reminder: It is Scylla's Turn.
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Just checking. Who is still here?
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