Re: Castellia- A Fantasy Setting (Genies! Achairai! Arrowhawks! Hags!)
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:20 am
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Which explains so much of 2016.Jabroniville wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:51 am It's funny how near-universal the dislike of ugly old women is. Something about it really creeps out humanity on a base level.
It’s really not until fairly modern times that we see a real dichotomy develop between “evil cruel hags” and “helpful fairy godmothers.” In the earlier literature, before being bowdlerized by the Victorians and Edwardians, it’s often very hard to tell the difference between the types.Jabroniville wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:51 am It's funny how near-universal the dislike of ugly old women is. Something about it really creeps out humanity on a base level. Especially prominent in Europe, where Atropos of the Fates was one of the most frightening of the Greek immortals. Ugly old men are seen as creatures of mockery, pity and humor, but a woman that far out of her birthin' years seems to really frighten people.
Thanks for pointing this out, I was busy looking for the sources.Batgirl III wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:27 pmIt’s really not until fairly modern times that we see a real dichotomy develop between “evil cruel hags” and “helpful fairy godmothers.” In the earlier literature, before being bowdlerized by the Victorians and Edwardians, it’s often very hard to tell the difference between the types.Jabroniville wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:51 am It's funny how near-universal the dislike of ugly old women is. Something about it really creeps out humanity on a base level. Especially prominent in Europe, where Atropos of the Fates was one of the most frightening of the Greek immortals. Ugly old men are seen as creatures of mockery, pity and humor, but a woman that far out of her birthin' years seems to really frighten people.
If you go back even further, to the medieval or ancient folklore, there’s essentially zero difference between them. The fae — or whatever the equivalent are called locally – are alien, as likely to harm as help.
It was a long journey from Baba Yaga to Bibbity Bobbity Boo.
The Japanese also have similar things to Hags, so it's in places other than Europe, too- it implies a primal human fear of women that far out of child-baring years: http://jpninfo.com/35085Batgirl III wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:27 pmIt’s really not until fairly modern times that we see a real dichotomy develop between “evil cruel hags” and “helpful fairy godmothers.” In the earlier literature, before being bowdlerized by the Victorians and Edwardians, it’s often very hard to tell the difference between the types.Jabroniville wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:51 am It's funny how near-universal the dislike of ugly old women is. Something about it really creeps out humanity on a base level. Especially prominent in Europe, where Atropos of the Fates was one of the most frightening of the Greek immortals. Ugly old men are seen as creatures of mockery, pity and humor, but a woman that far out of her birthin' years seems to really frighten people.
If you go back even further, to the medieval or ancient folklore, there’s essentially zero difference between them. The fae — or whatever the equivalent are called locally – are alien, as likely to harm as help.
It was a long journey from Baba Yaga to Bibbity Bobbity Boo.
That would be really funny if there wasn't some sad truth to it.Ken wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:53 amWhich explains so much of 2016.Jabroniville wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:51 am It's funny how near-universal the dislike of ugly old women is. Something about it really creeps out humanity on a base level.
Look how hated Thatcher is in England, too. Her funeral procession had people writing "ROT IN HELL, MAGGIE" on the walls the procession passed. Granted, her policies screwed over SCORES of people in the UK, but yikes- she'd been out of office for years.Thorpocalypse wrote: ↑Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:02 pmThat would be really funny if there wasn't some sad truth to it.Ken wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:53 amWhich explains so much of 2016.Jabroniville wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:51 am It's funny how near-universal the dislike of ugly old women is. Something about it really creeps out humanity on a base level.
And look how respected and admired The Baroness Thatcher is by conservatives, both in the UK and abroad. Republicans in the US absolutely love her.Jabroniville wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:28 am Look how hated Thatcher is in England, too. Her funeral procession had people writing "ROT IN HELL, MAGGIE" on the walls the procession passed. Granted, her policies screwed over SCORES of people in the UK, but yikes- she'd been out of office for years.