J-Mart: Vega, The Fantastic Four, Doctor Doom

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Re: J-Mart: Vega, The Fantastic Four, Doctor Doom

Post by Ares » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:20 pm

Yeah, I don't want anyone to misunderstand that Doom isn't a VILLAIN, it's just that he's interesting because he's a villain with a lot of sides to him. No one with an outsider's perspective should actively want to live in a world Doom controls, anymore than we'd want to live in a world controlled by Darth Vader and the Emperor. In a way, Doom is basically what happens when you combine Vader and the Emperor into a single person: He's got all the scheming arrogance and desire for control the Emperor does, but he's got some of the sympathetic qualities Vader does, as well as the awesome design and sheer presence. The difference being that Doom packs in a lot of the UNsympathetic qualities of the Emperor as well, so you don't feel as much for the guy. You want to see Doom's plan's thwarted, you want to see him defeated, but he's got to do so with a certain sense of style, grandeur, and misguided nobility, in addition to his arrogance and ego.

Doom is one of those guys where you'd never want him to win . . . but when you see him do things like take on the Beyonder, fight Celestials, take on Odin, you feel oddly compelled to root for the guy.

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Re: J-Mart: Vega, The Fantastic Four, Doctor Doom

Post by RUSCHE » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:32 pm

For me Doom represents the best and worst of humanity. Intelligence without compassion, morality and wisdom. Drive without the care of who or what gets destroyed on the way to achieve his goals. His utter hate for Reed is only matched by is belief that the world would be better with him in a ruler . I think what works for him is the same thing we hate about him . He will justify any action to achieve his ultimate goal of ruling the world. He is a dark mirror of ourselves. Or maybe not that dark..my two cents.

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Re: J-Mart: Vega, The Fantastic Four, Doctor Doom

Post by Scots Dragon » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:51 pm

Doctor Doom is easily one of my favourite supervillains because he's pretty much got it all as far as villains go. He's three dimensional and sympathetic enough as a character to actually He's often very complex and nuanced in his motivations, but also extremely straightforward in his goals. He's perfectly willing to dominate or murder or lie to achieve his goals, but is dismissive of ideas like racism or sexism or otherwise.

On top of that, he's a mad scientist in a suit of powered armour and an evil wizard who could well have managed to be Sorcerer Supreme and a dicatator with an entire country at his command.
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Re: J-Mart: Vega, The Fantastic Four, Doctor Doom

Post by HalloweenJack » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:28 pm

Doom's the man. Simple as that.

I'd known about him and read about him for years, but it wasn't until 8th grade when I first read Secret Wars that I really GOT the character.

And that scene of him being dissected alive by the Beyonder and still pulling it off really made the character for me. Showed me that there's something in a villain that you can really respect and still see them as the villain. That showing of will has always stuck with me.

And that he's so brilliant, but that his ego and arrogance are really the only thing that hold him back....that's sweet.

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