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Elsa

Post by Jabroniville » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:37 pm

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My power flurries through the air into the ground!
My soul is spiraling in frozen fractals all around!
And one thought crystalizes like an icy blast!
I’m never going back
The past is in the paaaaaaast!!

Let it go, let it go
And I’ll rise like the break of dawn!
Let it go, let it go
That perfect girl is gone!
Here I stand in the light of day!
Let the storm rage onnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!

The cold never bothered me anyway!


ELSA THE SNOW QUEEN
Played by:
Idina Menzel
Role: Disney Princess Turned Queen, Literal Ice Queen, The Ultimate Outsider, Girl With a Secret, Isolated Ruler, Uncontrollable Elementalist
PL 10 (304)
STRENGTH
1 STAMINA 2 AGILITY 3
FIGHTING 3 DEXTERITY 2
INTELLIGENCE 3 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE 2

Skills:
Athletics 6 (+7)
Deception 5 (+7)
Expertise (Royalty) 5 (+8)
Expertise (Singing) 14 (+16)
Insight 2 (+4)
Intimidation 3 (+5)
Perception 2 (+4)
Persuasion 2 (+4)

Advantages:
Benefit 4 (Queen of Arendelle), Great Endurance, Improved Trip, Ranged Attack 2, Startle

Powers:
"Eternal Winter" (All Powers Linked)
"Chilled to the Bone" Weaken Stamina 4 (Extras: Reaction +3, Area- 120ft. Burst +3) (Flaws: Uncontrolled) [24]
"Make Brittle" Weaken Toughness 8 (Extras: Affects Objects Only +0, Reaction +3, Area- 120ft. Burst +3) (Flaws: Uncontrolled) [48]
"The Snow Glows White on the Mountain Tonight" Environment 14 (30 miles; Cold 2, Impede Movement 2, Visibility) (Flaws: Uncontrolled) [35]
"Snowstorm" Concealment 2 (Extras: Affects Others, Area- 30ft. Burst) (Flaws: Uncontrolled) [6]

"The Cold Never Bothered Me Anyway"
Immunity 10 (Cold Effects) [10]
Movement 2 (Environmental Adaptation- Extreme Cold, Water-Walking) [4]
Movement 1 (Trackless) (Flaws: Limited to Within Snow) [1]
Enhanced Skills 8: Athletics 8 (+15) (Flaws: Limited to Within Ice & Snow) [2]
Enhanced Advantages 1: Quick Change [1]

"Outran a Freaking Horse Up a Mountain" (seriously, how did she get there so quickly?)
Speed 2 (8 mph) (Flaws: Limited to Within Snow) [1]

"Castle in the Mountains" Create 10 (Feats: Innate, Precise 2- Friggin' Gorgeous) (Extras: Continuous) (33) -- [38]
  • AE: "Frozen" Affliction 9 (Strength; Hindered, Fatigued & Vulnerable/Immobile, Defenseless & Exhausted) (Feats: Reversible) (Extras: Extra Condition +2, Area- 30ft. Line) (Flaws: Limited Degree) (28)
  • AE: "Icicle Barrage" Damage 8 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Line) (16)
  • AE: "Frozen Fractals" Move Object 8 (Feats: Precise) (Extras: Perception Range) (Flaws: Limited to Ice & Snow) (17)
  • AE: "Frozen Heart" Affliction 10 (Fort; Fatigued/Exhausted/Transformed to Ice) (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst, Progressive +2) (Flaws: Uncontrolled, Limited to 1 Rank Per Minute) (20)
  • AE: "Frozen Pond" Affliction 8 (Athletics; Hindered & Vulnerable/Prone & Immobile) (Extras: Area- 120ft. Burst +3, Extra Condition) (Flaws: Limited Degree, Instant Recovery) (24)
"I Wanna Build a Snowman!" Summon Snowman 7 (Extras: Heroic +2, 2 Minions +2, Variable- Snowmen, Continuous) [56]

"Ice Blocking"
Enhanced Dodge 4 [4]
Enhanced Advantages 1: Uncanny Dodge [1]

Offense:
Unarmed +3 (+1 Damage, DC 16)
Chilled to the Bone +4 Area (+4 Weaken, DC 14)
Make Brittle +8 Area (+8 Weaken, DC 18)
Frozen +9 (+9 Affliction, DC 19)
Frozen Heart +10 Area (+10 Weaken, DC 20)
Initiative +3

Defenses:
Dodge +4 (+8 Ice Blocking, DC 14-18), Parry +4 (DC 14), Toughness +2, Fortitude +5, Will +7

Complications:
Secret (An Ice Person)- Elsa's frozen gift was known only to her parents (Anna was brainwashed to forget such a thing for her own safety) and the Trolls, and she has been isolating herself from the rest of the world to prevent her dark and dangerous secret from coming out. She wears gloves to prevent her hands from automatically freezing objects on contact.
Responsibility (Conceal, Don't Feel)- Elsa's powers mean that she cannot interact with others. She is intensely lonely, but knows that she cannot open up to others, lest her secret get out or she injures them. Her powers are linked to her emotional state- she must maintain extreme calm at all times, or else they will go out of control. Anger, fear (the key component of her powers unleashing themselves... particularly nasty because of how much she fears her own powers or disappointing others), nervousness, even love... she must restrain them all, preventing anyone from piercing her frozen heart. Even her ice creations will take shape to reflect her mood- her beautiful castle soon turns jagged, red and ugly when she's enraged or terrified.
Motivation (A Kingdom of Isolation)- Elsa has been isolated for so long, forced to withhold all of her emotions, that she longs for a place to call her own. When her powers are uncovered and she's chased away from her very own coronation, she flees into the mountains, where she finally lets her restrained emotions go in a glorious display. Now, happier than she's ever been, all she wants to do is be left alone, and never have to hurt (or see) another living soul.
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Relationship (Anna)- Anna & Elsa loved playing together as children, but then one day, Elsa injured her sister, and was forced to hide away to avoid doing so again- she couldn't even tell Anna why. While Anna desperately tries to get through to her beloved sister, Elsa refuses for Anna's own safety, and to protect her own secret.
Responsibility (Arendelle)- With the deaths of the girls' parents three years previous, Elsa became the regent of Arendelle, their small kingdom. Finally coming of age, her subjects are now her responsibility, and she has many duties to uphold- many of which involve her ineracting with others. She gives a desperate, worried look at the portrait of her death father, the King, feeling the full weight of it.
Power Loss (Snow Powers)- Elsa's gloves can partially restrain her growing powers- she can avoid freezing things instantly by wearing confining gloves, and anything covering her hands appears to slow down her powers. Alas, the effects are only temporary, and her powers will slowly grow over such simple constraints.
Guilt (Monstrous Power)- Elsa's powers have injured her sister twice now, and have caused a terrible curse to fall over Arendelle. She believes herself to be a danger to everyone around her, and a monster.
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Accident (Snowgies)- On the rare occasion in which she gets a cold, Elsa's sneezes will produce any number of mischievous, miniature snowmen.

Total: Abilities: 36 / Skills: 36--18 / Advantages: 9 / Powers: 231 / Defenses: 10 (304)

Elsa- The Ultimate Mrs. Jabroniville:
-Oh, my, god. LOVE. ELSA. With a backstory so full of pathos that she could be a friggin' Astro City character, Elsa is the magically-powered eldest daughter of the King & Queen of Arendelle. When she nearly-fatally injures her beloved little sister Anna while playing with her powers, she is instructed by the King of the Trolls to control her powers, and that "Fear will be your enemy". Desperate to save their daughters, the royal family closes off the castle doors, gets rid of most of the staff, and forces young Elsa hide her emotions forever- essentially giving in to that fear, which they interpret as the fear of others should they discover Elsa's secret. By the time the movie starts, she's finally come of age once her parents are killed at sea (she was unable to even comfort, or be comforted by, poor orphaned Anna), and is forced to interact with both her and the royal families of the surrounding nations at her own coronation. Alas, her powers are unleashed in a fit of anger, and she exiles herself to the North Mountain, setting off an eternal winter in Arendelle as her emotions finally become unleashed.

-Like I said, Elsa captures a fundamental aspect of the human spirit- desperate for companionship, but utterly alone, she sat in isolation (both under parental instruction and her own self-hatred and guilt). Audiences sympathize with her to an extraordinary degree, aided by her great beauty and the powerhouse voice. When her deep, dark secret is finally revealed to the whole world (which is why gay & trans people linked themselves to this so much- she was effectively thrust out of the closet), she's shattered and left in "a Kingdom of isolation"... which is what finally allows her to "let it go" and become free and true to herself.

-Elsa's very DESIGN is based around her attempts at concealment- in addition to the use of Doors & Gates as a recurring metaphor for isolation in general, Elsa also wears gloves (her hands can freeze things- such as the ceremonial scepter), a very tight bodice, and wears her hair in a tightly-wound, elaborate bun. And that's so that when she sings her triumphant song she can "Let It Go", providing the movie's most intense, delerious moment. With one glove already gone, she tosses off the other, unwinds her braids, and creates a MASSIVE new Ice Castle on the North Mountain (a solid contender with Xanatos' for Most Awesome Base Ever), letting her finally feel all of those emotions she's been concealing for so long. FINALLY happy and able to feel, and be herself, Elsa retires, satisfied that nobody will ever intrude upon her again.

The Power of Let It Go:
-And MAN that song is epic- its possession of an incredibly emotional, exhilerating sense of letting go and being who you want to be no matter what anyone else thinks is a powerful allegory to pretty much any kind of outsider in general- I've heard comments from gay and trans people that basically took to the song as a kind of personal anthem almost immediately. And with Elsa representing the ultimate outsider who could never let her true self be known (even to close family), it creates a very powerful resonance with people who've always been forced to hide (girls in general tend to identify strongly with such identity-based anthems). It's part of why Marvel's mutants are also such an intense allegory for many people- it's all about discrimination and being forced to hide your true self- an awakening that can rival coming to terms with your sexuality as an adult, coming out of the closet, or any number of things (some have taken it as an anthem for Trans people).

-Let It Go actually changed the entire course of the movie- Elsa was meant to be a Bette Midler loudmouth-type who was a straight-up cliched Villainess until Bobby & Kristen Andersen-Lopez came up with this one Power Anthem song (borrowing liberally from Defying Gravity, also sung by Menzel), which IMMEDIATELY brought the movie's writers to tears and made them realize they had to re-write the entire picture. Soon, Elsa was not a Cruela deVil, but a shy, withdrawn heroine longing to be free. Hilariously, JOHN LASSETER himself came up with the idea for her Sexy Strut when she unveils herself, miming it for the animators- try picturing that.

Idina Menzel's Voice:
-Idina, by all rights, should be miscast as a 20-something young woman about to come of age. Her trademark raspy, breathy voice is that of a woman in her forties, after all. It's probably what got her cast as the screechy villain in the first place. But... it's perfect. Because if there's one thing Menzel's voice represents, it's tremendous power, with raw vulnerability at its core. Or vulnerability hiding power. That duality is incredibly difficult to perform adequately, and she performs it with aplomb both in spoken AND singing words, and it's a huge part of the character's appeal. Elsa is all at once proud, regal, dignified, cultured and reserved... but also very, very afraid, guilt-ridden and nervous- her stoic facade hides a terrified little girl. She's been forced to share life's sadness alone (grieving for her parents while isolated in her room), has had to hide her true nature for fear of what they'll think, and still hates the pain she can cause others with her secret. The freedom she feels when she lets all of that inner torment GO is the movie's centerpiece and powerhouse moment for a reason.

-What became the movie's signature song (trailers hyped For The First Time In Forever), had to have been written with Idina Menzel in mind- not only is she one of the Top Ten "Belters" on the planet in terms of singing, but she played the same sort of role as Elphaba (note the similar names) in Wicked, herself a discriminated-against character that was forced to conceal her own wants and personality in order to "fit in", before unleashing all of her pent-up fury in one epic moment (Let It Go is Elsa's Defying Gravity, to be sure). Only Idina Menzel could pull that off- it may sound a bit funny to have a 40-something woman play a 21-year old girl, but it's all worth it in the end- they even discuss it here at 15:00, how she packs both fragility and extreme strength simultaneously.

Scant Use of the Character:
-Elsa was such a great character, in fact, that they had to keep her scenes short (men at the studio wanted to keep pushing her... for obvious reasons), because she overpowered every other character with her raw intensity- she was so powerful, looked so cool, and had some intense emotions that every scene featuring her is JUST about her- something I call "The Maleficent Factor". Some people view it as a flaw that Elsa had comparatively-little screen time, but I think it would have been difficult to do more.

The Ultimate Toyetic Design:
-And OH GOD that design! I had my trepidations before, what with the exaggerated "Disney CGI" physique, the overly-big eyes and the weird hair her Disney Store doll had (yes I go in those places shut up). The "Dreamworks Face" thing with her eyebrows in most of the advertising pictures didn't help. But in motion, it's like the glory of the heavens unleashed- the ultra-sparkly dress (all those other Princesses had to add sparkles later- Elsa, who OUTRANKS them as Queen, comes ready-made with glitter), the intricate snowflake design, the platinum-blonde hair, etc... she's just incredible to watch. Jennifer Lee, the Co-Director, states outright that "every man in the studio, and some of the women, were in love with Elsa". In 2013, I predicted she was pretty much going to be the most popular character in the whole film and HOLY CRAP did that ever come true- she resonates very strongly with anyone who's ever felt like an outsider, is the most visually-interesting of a pretty "plain" cast, and gets the best song of the whole feature. Plus she's so hot she nearly reaches Belle-like levels in terms of staggering beauty- the only thing holding her back is that she doesn't have a whole ton of screentime (this might be a good thing, though- her pathos could weigh down the film, and how interesting is it to show someone in ISOLATION?). But think- despite that, she still gets to be the subject of massive blog posts like this, with elaborate deconstructions of just what she represents (a romantic artist? A gifted Nietzschian Ubermensch?). The movie had been out for a WEEK when these were brought up.

Post-Frozen Elsa:
-After Frozen, Elsa has proven to be by far the most difficult character to "figure out". I remember the MiceChat podcast where Dusty Sage (the guy who runs the site) suggesting that she seemed "off" in Frozen Fever. I pointed out in the comments that the issue with Elsa is... she basically runs through the entire gamut of emotions in Frozen, and doesn't settle into a "happy, well-adjusted" persona until the VERY END. This means that, every time someone adds more stuff to the canon, they have to deal with essentially an entirely different character than we got in the movie. Seriously, in Frozen, she starts off as a happy kid, but soon shifts to terrified (when she hurts Anna), guilt-ridden (for hurting Anna), isolated, closed-off (refusing to open up emotionally at the party), angry (when she lashes out at Anna and closes down the party), despondent and afraid (when she's discovered), and finally, emotionally-crushed (when she thinks Anna is dead). Only Let It Go features her happy, and her emotions soon return to a negative state as soon as Anna shows up at her Castle and points out the eternal winter. So suddenly seeing the happy, peppy Elsa in Frozen Fever came off as strange to some. Most of the Frozen books and comics deals with the same normal, friendly Generic Princess character as well. The neatest "extra" thing we learned is that she was kind of a micromanaging pain in the ass, constantly unsatisfied with the work she'd done.

-Olaf's Frozen Adventure, however, managed to capture some of that old magic, largely by re-activating Elsa's Guilt Complex. In this short, Elsa, upon realizing that she & Anna have no family Christmas traditions, figures out that it's because of HER- her being locked away in her room meant that their family could never be together, and so they lack the shared bond that everyone else in Arendelle has. And so we got BEAUTIFUL GUILTY ELSA, despondent and sad at what she's done, and she slinks away in shame. Everyone tries to make her feel better, with Olaf running away to find some NEW family traditions for them. Elsa finally comes to her senses, and she & Anna go over their old stuff. Anna jokes that Elsa just has boxes and boxes of gloves... at which point Elsa casually reveals... a chest full of nothing but perfectly-organized gloves, lined up in anal-retentive detail. The people who liked the short (and didn't think it was too long to stick in front of Coco) REALLY appreciated this side of Elsa.

-It's this problem that might be the hardest part of the 2019 sequel to pull off. I guess there's some expected drama and other stuff, but Elsa more or less goes through a COMPLETE CHARACTER ARC in her fifteen minutes of screentime in Frozen- Most of the traits we associate with her character, in particular her isolation, self-created hell, and her fear... have been dealt with. Like... are they gonna re-activate them? Put Anna in danger to capture the fear? Pretty much all the emotions shown in Let It Go are lightning in a bottle- her joy at finally letting herself free has already been seen.

Elsa's Stats:
-Stat-wise, Elsa is incredibly different from the rest of the Disney Canon. She's likeable (if distant) enough, and is good at keeping secrets... BUT THOSE POWERS. A girl with absolutely zero combat training EFFORTLESSLY wipes out two trained soldiers with crossbows (those Area Attacks are killer, since she has poor combat abilities- and WOW did it look like she impaled that one dude at first), she races all the way up a mountain IN A DRESS AND COURTLY SHOES, she can freeze people in giant waves, create an immense castle during the course of a song (Her Create power gains an extra level of Precise because her stuff looks SO FRIGGIN' COOL in animation), Summons a powerful Minion with almost zero effort (she just turns around and whips out this gigantic 16-foot Snow Golem), Transform people to ice in a poisonous manner (accidentally hitting Anna with it in a moment of anger), and more.

-She has assorted Cold-related side abilities (Trackless, Enhanced Athletics, Water-Walking, Immunity), enhanced Athletics when in wintry conditions (and she'll almost always be to a point), and can even subconsciously stop Crossbow bolts flying at her like she's Gaara of the Freakin' Sand. And all of that, PLUS her "Eternal Winter" power, an Uncontrolled section of Linked Powers that combine together to create a massive Environment Effect over a vast area, weaken the Stamina of anyone too close by (the people in Arendelle Castle grew more and more cold), brittle-ize anything from solid steel to brick walls, and create a huge squall to leave nearly anyone blind. Elsa costs a LOT of points, essentially being a less combat-ready but MUCH more attractive version of Iceman, who also happens to be a friggin' amazing singer.

About the Performer: Idina Menzel is a successful Broadway performer who's been in a few solid hits, but was largely unknkown to mainstream audiences before Frozen came out. She got her start in Rent as the original Maureen- a total ham, bad-art-student performer and omnisexual slut. The smash hit of Rent eventually led to her getting the role of Elphaba in Wicked, which proved her Leading Lady status. However, mainstream acting success eluded her- she was dropped from numerous record labels after solo albums flopped, and she hit her forties without really getting known. Probably her most mainstream role ended up being Rachel's mother on Glee (since she and Lea Michelle share belting voices and facial features)... and then Frozen came out. Cast as the "Snow Queen" as a blue-skinned villainess Evil Queen, she would have been hilarious and magnificent in the role... but her trademark "Vulnerable Power" thing came into play when the character was remade, and she ended up becoming a REAL NAME because of it!

-The post-Frozen success actually changed the course of her career- appearing in the musical If/Then (which did well, but likely still closed at a loss) at the time, she was more or less stuck doing daily performances when her triumphant song, Let It Go, became the hit of the decade. And suddenly John Travolta flubbed her name at the Oscars and she became a name for THAT, too. It led to a massive "Fifteen Minutes of Fame" thing, which ended up with some backlash- she got made fun of for bombing the song live (actresses and other performers were pissed- they pointed out that live singing and doing so OUTSIDE in the cold is actually very hard, and it's not an easy song to sing), and attempts at casting her in various other things didn't really go anywhere. Ultimately, she still does theatre (where she's still very respected), but will probably be known as Elsa until she dies- it actually helped her career greatly, as she can now do REAL World Tours... but she'll likely be in that boat with Jodi Benson, Paige O'Hara and other "Disney Legends"- famous largely for characters like that. However, unlike most of them, she can lean on another couple of icons as well- Maureen & Elphaba still carry weight in the theatre world.
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Re: Jab’s Builds (Elena! FROZEN!!! Anna! Kristoff! Olaf! Marshmallow!)

Post by Jabroniville » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:43 pm

Hm, I feel I didn't use enough FanArt for Elsa's build. Here's some more:

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Re: Jab’s Builds (Anna! Kristoff! Olaf! Marshmallow! ELSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!)

Post by HalloweenJack » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:09 pm

so...you like Frozen I guess?

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Re: Jab’s Builds (Elena! FROZEN!!! Anna! Kristoff! Olaf! Marshmallow!)

Post by Shock » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:11 pm

Jabroniville wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:43 pm
Hm, I feel I didn't use enough FanArt for Elsa's build. Here's some more:
And only one or two creepy ones. I'm proud of you :mrgreen:

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Re: Jab’s Builds (Elena! FROZEN!!! Anna! Kristoff! Olaf! Marshmallow!)

Post by Tattooedman » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:06 pm

Jabroniville wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:35 pm
The fact that I gave the movie THIS MUCH PRAISE and most of you dinks still haven't seen it makes me realize that I misjudged all of you terribly. You are, in fact, all horrendous people :P.
That might be the nicest thing said about me in the last 7 days.... :mrgreen:

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Re: Jab’s Builds (Elena! FROZEN!!! Anna! Kristoff! Olaf! Marshmallow!)

Post by Woodclaw » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:47 pm

Ares wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:06 pm
Woodclaw wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:29 pm
It's not as bad as it could be. At Lucca 2016 3 cosplayers out of 4 were there as movie Harley Quinn. It was terrifying.
The Harley Quinn thing is kind of a conundrum for me. I mean, I understand the appeal on some level: it's a relatively simple outfit, you don't need crazy proportions for the character, she was the most popular character from the Suicide Squad film, and contrary to a vocal minority, women like feeling pretty/sexy, and Harley has pretty much taken over as DC's official "sexy villainess", with even Catwoman and Poison Ivy being more conservative than Harley these days.

On the other hand, Harley is basically a crazy, evil, emotionally traumatized young woman who is the supervillain equivalent of a battered spouse that keeps going back to her abusive boyfriend. Writer Sean Murphy mentioned that part of the reason he wrote Batman: White Knight was to include the original Harley because he didn't like seeing his niece in a "Property of the Joker" jacket. Which loses some impact given his writing on the book, but still.

I'm honestly conflicted on how I feel about the character, especially the original Timm-verse Harley. On the one hand, she's sympathetic to an extent, but also clearly a villain who basically uses her situation to indulge in her worst aspects. But you'd also see occasional stories where it looked like she might genuinely reform, and I could actually see Harley as this kind of Spider-Man-style jokey heroine who uses joke-themed gadgets. I'm torn whether I'd want her to continue being a villain or maybe have a shot at reforming. Most modern works seem to turn her into this Deadpool-esque LOL-So-Random character that just does whatever the story needs.
My general guess is that a lot of people are drawn to her random nature, Harley is a bit of a wildcard (especially in recent years) that give the authors a lot of free space to play with. Also she is one of the few "sexy bad girl" that doesn't play the femme fatale card too much,opposite to Catwoman and Ivy.
Jabroniville wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:36 pm
Harley's a total nutjob, and I think a lot of cosplayers don't really think about it or know that- being a cosplayer is a "different kind of nerd", so to speak, and they're more into the outfit and attitude than the actual history of the character. Most people probably don't even know her origin story.

It doesn't help that the doll line actually pushes Harley as a prospective super-hero.
From what I understand that's not 100% accurate. Many cosplayers choose their characters based mostly on appearence, but what separate a good cosplayer from a mediocre one is often understanding the character and its backstory.
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Re: Jab’s Builds (Anna! Kristoff! Olaf! Marshmallow! ELSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!)

Post by Jabroniville » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:06 am

HalloweenJack wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:09 pm
so...you like Frozen I guess?
Wouldja believe I haven’t actually watched it in almost two years? I really didn’t want to have it TOO memorized- plus, my backlog of stuff to watch is always pretty huge.

I still remember the plot very well, but I forgot a few lines here and there (mostly from the King and the Duke of Weselton). Some scenes actually felt a bit new to me as a result of the gap between watches.

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Re: Jab’s Builds (Anna! Kristoff! Olaf! Marshmallow! ELSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!)

Post by Jabroniville » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:08 am

Can’t... stop... posting... pictures...


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King Agdar

Post by Jabroniville » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:14 am

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KING AGDAR OF ARENDELLE
Played by:
Maurice LaMarche
Role: Loving & Protective Father
PL 1 (16), PL 2 (16) Saves
STRENGTH
1 STAMINA 1 AGILITY 0
FIGHTING 0 DEXTERITY 0
INTELLIGENCE 1 AWARENESS 0 PRESENCE 0

Skills:
Deception 5 (+5)
Expertise (Royalty) 5 (+6)

Advantages:
Benefit 4 (King of Arendelle)

Offense:
Unarmed +0 (+1 Damage, DC 16)
Initiative +0

Defenses:
Dodge +0 (DC 10), Parry +0 (DC 10), Toughness +1, Fortitude +1, Will +2

Complications:
Relationship (Anna & Elsa)- The King is highly-protective of his two daughters, and devotes much of his life to keeping Elsa's powers a secret from others, and trying to help her control them. Unfortunately, his methods for doing this involve shutting her off from everything. He wishes to comfort her, but Elsa will not allow him contact, for fear she'll hurt him.
Secret (Elsa's Powers)- When Pabbie tells Elsa to not let fear be her enemy, and shows an image of people attacking her out of fear, The King fears the worst, and attempts to protect her from everyone.

Total: Abilities: 6 / Skills: 10--5 / Advantages: 4 / Powers: 0 / Defenses: 1 (16)

-Figured I'd throw in a build of the King, especially since so much of the initial story of Frozen involves him. It's actually quite peculiar, because when you get down to it, a huge portion of the events in the film are HIS FAULT ENTIRELY, yet he still comes across as sympathetic because he only had his daughters' interests at heart. See, while he scolds Elsa for injuring her sister, he earnestly tries to keep her from harm. When Grand Pabbie the Troll warns Elsa that "Fear will be your enemy!", and shows her some villagers attacking her in hatred, both she and the King resolve to keep her powers a secret, to avoid making everyone afraid of her.

-And therein lies the tragedy: While Pabbie was pretty unclear (and that's generally true of everything the Trolls do, when you look into it), the King decides to shut Elsa off from the rest of the Kingdom (which is really just a small city), in order to protect the secret, and generally leaving her in her room for the duration of her life (though she's seen outside of it in some supporting works, and she's at the bottom of a staircase in the film- a scene was cut where she & Anna argue over shoes as well). And in so doing, THEY ALLOW FEAR IN, as both are terrified of Elsa's powers growing and being revealed. So he gives Elsa gloves to help, and reminds her to "Conceal it, don't feel it. Don't let it show". And because of this, the King is responsible for ruining the early part of Elsa's life- keeping her hidden from everyone, and never teaching her to master her emotions. Had he understood the Troll's message a little differently, everything could have been avoided. Elsa gets a final "Up yours, dad" during Let It Go, imitating a stern, finger-wagging father-figure going "Conceal, Don't Feel, Don't Let Them KNOW... Well now they KNOWWWWWW!", as she's finally able to live outside the spectre of fear.

-The girls' mother, Idunn, factors little into the plot (she's voiced by Co-Director Jennifer Lee in her only line), and generally only follows the King along. She's notable for looking pretty much exactly like an adult Elsa, but with brown hair. The King himself actually resembles Walt Disney quite a lot, and Arendelle is close to Arundal, the name of Walt's Great-Grandfather (in addition to being close to the name of a city in Norway).

About the Performer: The King himself is voiced by Maurice "The Brain" LaMarche, a Token Legit Voice Actor in the film, which generally used celebrities for all of the other characters. He started out as a comedian, but quit after a lot of self-criticism and personal tragedy (the murder of his father and death of his sister in a car accident). He moved in to voice acting, where he got into basically EVERYTHING- I didn't know he was Egon Spengler in The Real Ghostbusters, but his biggest and most iconic role by far would be The Brain on Animaniacs, where his constantly-annoyed, somewhat-deadpan delivery would basically form the act's center, and send the duo into a series of their own. He's also done many voices for Futurama, such as Kif Kroker, Calculon (as a perfectly-acted self-important ass), Lrrr, Morbo and Hedonismbot. That these characters sound NOTHING ALIKE and are voiced by the same man is pretty astonishing. And hey- he's also Toucan Sam!

-He's well-known for a dead-on perfect impression of Orson Welles (he voiced the character in Ed Wood, as the actual actor couldn't manage the voice), which he's repeated several times (including replicating Welles's famous "Commercial Voiceover Breakdown" in an episode of Pinky and the Brain).
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Re: Jab’s Builds (Anna! Kristoff! Olaf! Marshmallow! ELSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!)

Post by Jabroniville » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:16 am

Also, bad-ass:


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Re: Elsa

Post by RainOnTheSun » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:47 am

Jabroniville wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:37 pm
-It's this problem that might be the hardest part of the 2019 sequel to pull off. I guess there's some expected drama and other stuff, but Elsa more or less goes through a COMPLETE CHARACTER ARC in her fifteen minutes of screentime in Frozen- Most of the traits we associate with her character, in particular her isolation, self-created hell, and her fear... have been dealt with. Like... are they gonna re-activate them? Put Anna in danger to capture the fear? Pretty much all the emotions shown in Let It Go are lightning in a bottle- her joy at finally letting herself free has already been seen.
Just go full superhero queen. Running a country is hard work, even without ice magic complicating things. Frankly, I'm a little confused your OC world doesn't have an Elsa as the local Namor/Black Panther/Doctor Doom figure yet.

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Re: Elsa

Post by Jabroniville » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:21 am

RainOnTheSun wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:47 am
Jabroniville wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:37 pm
-It's this problem that might be the hardest part of the 2019 sequel to pull off. I guess there's some expected drama and other stuff, but Elsa more or less goes through a COMPLETE CHARACTER ARC in her fifteen minutes of screentime in Frozen- Most of the traits we associate with her character, in particular her isolation, self-created hell, and her fear... have been dealt with. Like... are they gonna re-activate them? Put Anna in danger to capture the fear? Pretty much all the emotions shown in Let It Go are lightning in a bottle- her joy at finally letting herself free has already been seen.
Just go full superhero queen. Running a country is hard work, even without ice magic complicating things. Frankly, I'm a little confused your OC world doesn't have an Elsa as the local Namor/Black Panther/Doctor Doom figure yet.
LOL before Frozen came out, I created the Ice Princess character, whose mother is a cold-hearted, closed-off Queen who sent her girl to Earth for her own protection. So I basically sorta have one :).

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Re: Jab’s Builds (Anna! Kristoff! Olaf! Marshmallow! ELSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!)

Post by squirrelly-sama » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:37 am

I just realized that their kingdom sounds an awful lot like the name of a dark souls city... I wonder if there's any ds3 inspired art of Elsa.

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Re: Jab’s Builds (Anna! Kristoff! Olaf! Marshmallow! ELSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!)

Post by KorokoMystia » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:51 am

Jabroniville wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:16 am
Also, bad-ass:


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Huh, that is pretty much literally the Frozen Throne from Warcraft III

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Re: Jab’s Builds (Anna! Kristoff! Olaf! Marshmallow! ELSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!)

Post by BriarThrone » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:29 am

KorokoMystia wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:51 am
Jabroniville wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:16 am
Also, bad-ass:


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Huh, that is pretty much literally the Frozen Throne from Warcraft III
It includes Arthas' sword, so I have to conclude it is deliberately the same thing.

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