Jab’s Builds! (Nightmare Creatures/Circus! Lawnmower Man! Metroid!)

[Yojimbo]

Hey! "Tyrone King" was an alias. He turned out to not even be black.

[Jabroniville]

Hey! "Tyrone King" was an alias. He turned out to not even be black.

Haha, really? Was this in the Namor book? I remember some stuff from that regarding him.

[MacynSnow]

Cockroach Hamilton:This homeboy has my utmost Respect,as he had the Jewels to take on Cage BY HIMSELF,break's Luke's Shoulder by firing that Magnificent SIX-BARRELED SHOTGUN point-blank range,and STILL does his job successfully.It's just to bad his Boss was an idiot...

Boris & Ninotchka:My second favorite pair of Russian Secret Agents(next to Boris&Natasha ),these two would make near perfect "Street-Level" villians for a solo hero(they were sadly underutilized in there time,however)...

[Jabroniville]

THE IMMORTAL IRON FIST:
-One of the more celebrated mainstream comic book superhero runs in recent history was the phenomenal Brubaker/Fraction/Aja The Immortal Iron Fist- a story that completely retcons much of the history of the character, but was SO GOOD that even his most ardent fans thought it was an improvement. Unfortunately, the title's creative energy couldn't be kept up by others, reducing the character to what he was before- a C-league hero who struggled to keep his ongoings... ongoing.

-Iron Fist debuted a little while after Shang-Chi did, and instead of being a Bruce Lee knock-off, he was something audiences were more used to- a gaudily-dressed American Super-Hero, just with some Asian martial arts trappings. He was created practically by committee (Roy Thomas & Gil Kane had seen some kung fu movies and had an idea based off of an "Iron Fist" ritual contained therein) and simply tossed into Marvel Premiere (a "Try-Out" book of sorts), then left to whichever creative team wasn't busy at the time- his entire run is largely done by a series of unproven commodities or lower-tier acts, which can be a benefit and a curse.

-Iron Fist is Danny Rand, who was orphaned when his Asiaphile father, Wendell, brought his family (and, oddly, his business partner) to the mystical nation of K'un-Lun, which enters Earth's dimension only once every ten years. Wendell, it would later be explained, had visited the land many years earlier, being adopted by its Lord Tuan (after saving his life), and having a daughter with an inhabitant who later died. Wendell's partner, Howard Meachum, would betray Wendell and killed him on the journey, then watched as Heather (Wendell's wife, and the woman Howard loved) ran off, refusing to be with him. A young Danny was forced to run, and could only hear his mother's violent death at the hands of a pack of wolves- unable to do anything, he was rescued and taken into K'un-Lun. There, the young American boy is raised in Asian traditions and trained in the martial arts, eventually becoming the greatest student of Lei Kung- The Thunderer.

-Finally, Danny is selected to do the impossible- defeat the mighty dragon Shou-Lao the Undying, whose heart lies protected within his cave. Unable to stop the Dragon, Danny has the clever idea to block the chi emanating from the beast's heart, by pressing himself up against the dragon-shaped tattoo on the chest of Shou-Lao. After a long struggle, the Dragon finally dies, unable to gain the much-needed energy from its heart. Danny, the same dragon emblem now burned onto his chest, has become the Iron Fist. After a few more rituals, he is given the choice- remain in K'un-Lun, or gain the revenge he claimed he wanted all along. To Danny, the choice is simple- he must avenge the deaths of his parents, by murdering Howard Meachum. He leaves K'un-Lun and embarks upon a long journey.

The Iron Fist Comic:
-Danny engages in some long battles in his first solo run- typically, his mystical "Iron Fist" technique can only be done once, after a LONG build-up- he uses it to smash down walls, destroy the weapons of his opponents, and more- usually a coup de grace attack seen once or twice per issue. And, in a very neat twist, he faces down Meachum... and realizes that revenge is a hollow, childish pursuit, and that Meachum (who is now legless from frostbite and invites death) has wasted the past ten years being terrified of reprisal. He abandons Meachum to his fate (he is slain by another assailant shortly thereafter). He has a love affair with Blaxploitation Ex-Detective Misty Knight, who forms a partnership with Colleen Wing that takes up the supporting cast of the book.

-The Iron Fist title was a village bicycle of a run, written by FOUR DIFFERENT WRITERS over a mere fifteen issues before it was cancelled- the unproven rookie team of Chris Claremont & John Byrne, doomed to be anonymous nobodies forever and certainly would never change the industry for all time, were forced to end their story in a two-parter in Marvel Team-Up, where Spider-Man and Iron Fist team up to defeat the son of Lei Kung- the Steel Serpent.

Power Man & Iron Fist- Unlikely Duo:
-Iron Fist, having proven too unpopular to live, was given a last-ditch effort in an attempt to save him- he was teamed up with ANOTHER hero too unpopular to sustain his own series. And thus, Power Man and Iron Fist was born. The two simply took over Luke's book as a duo act, starting with its forty-fifth issue. The book... still wasn't popular. Both guys had such a murderer's row of Jobber Foes that it was hard to get a sustained run out of any of them. And the top-tier talent still wasn't kept around. It had some strengths, though- the two characters had a natural chemistry, with Luke being clever, streetwise and powerful, while Danny was unwise to the ways of the world, but more thoughtful and skillful. He becomes fantastically wealthy after inheriting his father's place in Rand-Meachum, particularly since Howard is dead.

-The book ended on a hilariously dumb note, with Iron Fist pointlessly dying, being killed in his sleep by a super-powered child. Jim "Christopher Priest" Owsley was STILL defending it years later, with the typical snide, arrogant "Of COURSE it's supposed to be pointless- THAT WAS THE POINT. And it's also a comic book"- ie. "I have no respect for my own genre, so why should you?" ass-hattery. John Byrne, who cut his teeth on the character, was annoyed enough that he specifically used his Namor book to reverse the death some six years later, more or less writing it out as being utterly pointless- it's almost never brought up these days, and the circumstances are NEVER mentioned. "In one of those amazing examples of Marvel serendipity, it turned out to be fairly easy not only to resurrect Danny, but to make it seem like that was the plan all along." sez Byrne. Turns out, the "Iron Fist" who died was actually a copy by the H'ylthri plant-people (a previously-established group), and the "kid" was actually the Super-Skrull in disguise.

Iron Fist in the Iron Age:
-Danny was a completely minor character during most of the '90s. His resurrection was basically at the tail end of the Comic Book Boom (1992), and he was mostly in Marvel Comics Presents and a couple of Limited Series after that. John Ostrander's Heroes For Hire didn't even make it two years in the late '90s, either. 

The Immortal Iron Fist:
-The largely-unused character was given a new lease on life in 2007, when unproven future superstars Ed Brubaker, Matt Fraction and David Aja would create an all-new series, and completely renovate the character's origin and history. They would effortlessly add in some more Asian Mysticism, create a bizarre new cast of characters, and alter the very nature of K'un-Lun, but do such a good job of it that even long-time fans were like "Yeah, these are good Retcons- let's just leave these in". Suddenly, Danny Rand was now the latest in a LONG LINE of Iron Fists. Oh, and K'un-Lun is merely one of SEVEN "Capital Cities of Heaven" that may appear in our dimension, and there's a huge tournament between the Iron Fist and all the others. Oh, and the previous Iron Fist, a man named Orson Randall, turns up alive after all these years, revealing a "Pulp-Era" style of adventures.

-The series, to put it bluntly, was PHENOMENAL. Inventive art, gritty-looking characters, f'd-up "Mystical Asian Menaces" like The Bride of Nine Spiders, hilarious (Fat Cobra became an immediate fan-favorite for his "Bring me my victory wenches!" style of dialogue), and more. Orson teaches Danny some of the "Secret History" of K'un-Lun and the nature of the Iron Fist powers in a way that delicately avoids simply being "The more-skilled Mary Sue know-it-all who explains everything", largely because it still gives credence to the main character, and Orson pulls an Obi-Wan anyways, instead of merely being an unpopular add-on like Ezekiel, who did the same act for Spider-Man (but annoying hung around as a pointless nothing).

The Iron Fist Push... Fizzles:
-Unfortunately, such brilliant creative energy could not be kept going for long. The success of The Immortal Iron Fist made the entire industry take notice of these guys, and all three would become superstars- Brubaker on a legendary ten-year Captain America run, Fraction on a series of books, and Aja as a ... pretty-slow but very good artist. When they all left the book, the successors just couldn't keep it going. Despite now having a HUGE supporting cast and a ton of potential things to do (like, say... VISIT THE OTHER CAPITAL CITIES OF HEAVEN), the cast just kind of farted around. Danny fought a lame villain who hunted and killed all the prior Iron Fists save Orson (who was hiding from him) and Danny himself, and all the Immortal Weapons are kidnapped and imprisoned within a demon realm. There was some okay stuff in it, but recapturing the energy of the other run was impossible. An Immortal Weapons mini-series showed the origins and backstories of some of the other characters, but most of it was a solid C to B-, as opposed to an A+.

-As expected, this mostly killed the book, and it was cancelled. Danny himself was brought on to one of the Avengers teams for about four years, indicating how much success the run had brought him (he was one of the only Marvel solo heroes NOT to become an Avenger until 2010!), but it was a largely filler, unmemorable run. With him off that book, Danny just kind of farts around, ending up in the same "Limbo" he sat in for the '90s. He was in a Defenders series, as a Marvel Netflix show brought the character to new light. It was, however, considered the weakest of the four shows by most fans, and drew some negative publicity for the "Mighty Whitey" origin of the character (which, to be fair, is the ENTIRE POINT of the character; the permanent outsider, raised in Asian Tradition but being not of that world, so that he returns to HIS world... with a completely different outlook that anyone in it).

-A new Iron Fist series came out, but quickly died, as Marvel was deep into its "Let's have one-billion active titles at once, and give unproven rookies the reigns to half of them" period. It was focused around ugly art and Danny... being super revenge-obsessed about his parents dying again. Quickly forgotten, it gave way to a very "Indie Comix" team-up book with Luke Cage again, but that also died.

[MacynSnow]

Poor Danny Rand's Popularity issues kind of reminds me of one of those Roller Coaster's;For every high spot,you get a downward run,then it pitter's off back where it started....

[Ares]

Hey! "Tyrone King" was an alias. He turned out to not even be black.

Haha, really? Was this in the Namor book? I remember some stuff from that regarding him.

If I remember right, Tyrone King was really Master Kahn in disguise, using subtle manipulation to screw with Iron Fist, explaining why things went so pear-shaped for Danny later in the run. This included retconning "Captain Hero" as being the Super-Skrull in disguise and several other things.

[Jabroniville]

THE IMMORTAL IRON FIST (2007 series):
The First Trade: A very good starter to the series, and introduces Orson Randall as the still-living previous Iron Fist, back to help Danny out. Orson is pretty impressive given how bad the whole "I'm older, more experienced and know WAY more stuff that you!" act could have been- he almost reads like a bad fanfic character in theory, but he instantly gives the series a whole new edge, plus leads to a bunch of "back in the past" stories that read like whacky pulp adventures. Which is funny, because Pulp is almost always better as a retro thing than reading actual pulp stuff from that era ever seemed to be- all the little funny asides about how weird their lives are (teaming up with a dog, a writer, The Contessa, an Irish stereotype and others against an army of gun-totting hookers) make a lot of those old stories.

It also leaves one thing hanging: Orson Randall's name is too similar to Danny's to be a coincidence, especially since the "Randall" logo separates the "Rand" from the "All" in print. The Rand Family Fortune is derived from the Randall one, too, and Orson acted fatherly towards Wendell in their old Pulp Adventures. Yet they never really establish the connection beyond Danny asking "are you my Grandfather, or-" before Orson goes the way of millions of mentors before him and gets Obi-Wanned.

The Second Trade opens with an actual Martial Arts Tournament, said to be part of the corruption of the Seven Capital Cities of Heaven- and we're introduced to six OTHER Immortal Weapons, one from each city. They're given esoteric, unique, memorable names that makes them instantly recognizable, and some of their powers are REALLY weird- Tiger's Beautiful Daughter & Dog Brother #1 are less weird than Danny in terms of power, but The Bride of Nine Spiders, Fat Cobra and Prince of Orphans are WAY out there. There's a ton of weird mess around the tournament, too- It's said to be double-elimination (losers fight to determine a "Defeated Contender" in Battle Royale), but we never see anything other than the one round (the fighters presumably cancel it). The standings change after one issue as well (there's no way Fat Cobra & Prince of Orphans should've been fighting in the second round the way it was set up at first). And WTF are the rules if cutting off someone's FREAKING HAND is legal, but beating someone to a pulp with chi is seen as a disgusting affront? John Aman is all "YOU DISHONOR US ALL!" when Steel Phoenix rips into his opponent with chi, but she literally just MAIMED him!

But the second trade is definitely the series' peak. Having read it only once, I could practically quote entire issues (and I can barely remember ANY of the next four trades- and only recall panels here and there once I read them again and go "oh YEAAHHHHHH...")- the dialogue is amazing, the fight scenes are extraordinarly well-designed, and they have whacky martial arts names for each move- like "Jawsnapper in Twilight" and "Mistress of All Agonies". David Aja is AWESOME on art here as well, and many of the back-up artists can handle the load, too. It ends with the dread revelation that "there is an Eighth Capital City", as they Seven Immortal Weapons rain absolute hell all over HYDRA, alongside Luke Cage, Misty Knight & Colleen Wing.

Trade Three is interesting, because it gives us some glimpses of the earlier Iron Fists, a fun tale starring Randall's "Confederates of the Curious" (I always find it amusing that they only SORT OF explain what's going on), and the first two issues featuring Iron Fist way back in the 1970s. There's actually much less to the main story here, though, as they sorta pay lip service to the "All the Immortal Weapons search for the Eighth City" thing. It's mostly a lot of exposition by Danny, a renewed part of Heroes For Hire (though he & Luke don't team up all that much from this point), and a realization that almost every preceding Iron Fist has died at thirty-three... right when Danny's friends hand him a birthday cake with a big "33" on it. Fraction & Brubaker leave with this one (Fraction handling most of the duties by this point), having felt they did what they wanted to, and wanted to leave on a high note.

Trade Four is a good bit weaker, with uglier, "inky" art. David Swierczynski makes an admirable try (he was basically hand-picked by the preceding writers), but just isn't as capable. It doesn't help that they only pay lip service to the "finding the 8th City" thing, and instead focus on some Demon Guy who's killed dozens of other Iron Fists and is coming for Danny and the heart of the resurrected Shou-Lao. The only part that's REALLY awesome is the final bit, as Danny channels his rage to kick some unholy Lizard-Necked ass.

Trade Five features the Eighth City, which is basically a version of Hell ruled by all the demons cast out of the other Seven Capital Cities of Heaven. However, the corrupt Yu-Ti has been dumping innocent K'un-Lun citizens into Hell for years simply because they opposed his decadent rule, and now Danny has been charged with rescuing them. He & the other Immortal Weapons are captured and imprisoned (how they managed to grab John Aman is left unexplained), beaten savagely in the arena for an untold length of time, but then they're all let out in the open and make a break for it, Danny beating down the Immortal Weapon of The Eighth City (with his own tragic past and sacrifice having warped him), then saving his life, allowing him to come back to K'un-Lun.

-The series as a whole ends on that note, with the next collection featuring solo stories of the other Immortal Weapons. Some stories don't explain much, and most are basically just well-written one-offs (a favourite of some Indie-bred comic book writers, I think). All in all, it's a VERY good run that completely renovated the character, ignoring some of the goofy retcons in his history by telling an all-new story (I'm sure it drives some continuity nuts crazy, but I think as long as the story is good and the original is barely even interesting, you can retcon the hell out of it and it won't matter. It's not like they undid Who Is Donna Troy? or something sacrilegious). It peaks by the second trade, but the other ones are still fairly interesting at points, even if they're an obvious downgrade. It's VERY creepy at points, and utilizes the disturbing tendencies of Asian mysticism with various characters.

Danny later joins an Avengers team or two, and joins The Defenders for a series I felt was REALLY bad and REALLY boring, which is odd because it was written by Matt Fraction- one of the creators of the best two Iron Fist trades. But Fraction hit a kind of slump after leaving Iron Fist, writing some mediocre X-Men stuff, then Defenders, before hitting his old stride with the Hawkeye series (again, with David Aja on art). Right now, Iron Fist kind of just hangs around once again.

HEROES WHO KILL:
-The series' comments about killing are interesting- I mean, Luke Cage is a guy that was talked down from murdering the man who TORTURED HIS WIFE FOR MONTHS, then threatened to kill both her and his infant child. And he THANKED Captain America for stopping him. Yet here is Luke engaging in a huge fight with HYDRA agents while his partners KILL dozens of them! Danny shares the whole "life is precious" thing many heroes do, yet he clearly snaps a HYDRA agent's neck on-panel in the first issue, then BLOWS SEVERAL OF THEM IN HALF with the power of the Iron Fist. Kind of funny to think about- this series tends to take a more realistic depiction of how you fight dangerous people, much like Brubaker's work on Captain America (I loved his interview in the back of one where he's like "Are you an idiot? He fought in World War II- of course he killed people!")- you don't have to LIKE IT, but you're not going to pull your punches on someone gunning for you.

POWER LEVELS IN THE IRON FIST-VERSE:
-PLs can be a tough thing to determine in a world that rarely interacts with many other superheroes, though I think PL 10 is still a very good starting point for many guys- nobody seems THAT far out of reach of a major martial artist super-hero, though they're all high-tier. Danny himself hangs on a fairly equal level with, say, Daredevil, with only the power of the Iron Fist really setting them apart as combatants. Similarly, Luke Cage seems about as tough in his role as a supporting character here, and I don't think he's beyond PL 10 in the comics either. Compare this to the 1970s, where Danny has a TON of trouble with only four random Hoodlums, and some guy with a spiked chain is nearly a lethal opponent before Danny Iron Fists the spike off the top of the thing.

Most of the Immortal Weapons are around the same level, though the series is a bit odd when "Pushing" certain characters. Davos (aka Steel Phoenix) comes in like a hurricane, using tremendous powers, but is basically embarassed by Tiger's Beautiful Daughter in his first tournament fight, and needs to cheat against nearly every foe. Despite this, in a Marvel Team-Up trade I have featuring the best of Claremont & Byrne, Davos is basically Danny's exact equal, and able to fend off Spider-Man, Misty Knight & Colleen Wing simultaneously, and once he gains the power of the Iron Fist, he's basically about to kill Spidey. Of course, that was the 1970s, during Davos' debut, making it a solid case of New Villain Stink.

The biggest three Power Feats in the entire thing are Danny cutting through a Giant's ankle/Achilles Tendon, Danny figuring out how to kill/KO a gigantic Dragon, and of course the time he PUNCHED A TRAIN FULL OF EXPLOSIVES TO DEATH, all of which were treated as major feats, but not a regular thing. Hell, Danny struggles in the first trade against mere HYDRA MOOKS (though Fat Cobra is said to demolish "one-hundred Shaolin Terror Priests" as part of a pre-game show).

[Jabroniville]

The interesting thing about the "Iron Fist" half of this set is that many more of the characters are new- I only had to update my "PL List" for Impasse in the "Cage" half of the run- everyone else was either a re-post or a "No Build; Just a Bio" minor character. With Danny, there were a handful of minor-league guys floating around that could get statlines.

[Ares]

Ah, Iron Fist. One of my favorite comics characters ever, and much like Capt. Marvel over at DC, criminally underused.

Christopher Priest, for all the good he's done for Black Panther and Milestone comics, strikes me as incredibly petty sometimes. When his Iron Fist/Power Man book was canceled, he decided to kill off Danny out of what basically felt like spite. When his Justice League Task Force book was cancelled, he killed off the character he'd created for the book in a similarly pointless fashion, because he'd rather her dead than DC being able to use her. And during the 80s, when he was a Spider-Man writer, he not only revealed that Ned Leeds was the Hobgoblin, but killed Ned off in the same issue, without consulting or telling any of the other Spider-Writers at the time.

And yes, the Immortal Iron Fist series should have been something fans hated, given all of the retcons, but it honestly felt more like what Iron Fist should have been all along, so fans embraced it. And I say this as one of those fans that read every Iron Fist comic he could get his hands on, and didn't mind in the least the retcons we got. It's a shame that book never really reached its full potential.

I wasn't a fan of the last Power Man/Iron Fist book they released. They made Danny way too dopey and Luke into his long-suffering sidekick. I think at this point, you'd really just need to make their book a full on team/family book about Luke, Danny, Jessica, Misty and Colleen, maybe with Shang Chi thrown in for good measure. And like I've said before, retcon Danny and Misty as being a couple and having their daughter Lucy. There is no reason for the two of them to not exist.

Iron Fist: The Living Weapon, while having an awesome title, was utter garbage. They recently released another Iron Fist book, simply titled "Iron Fist" and it was MUCH better. Without giving much away, it includes a scene of Danny riding Shao-Lao into battle reigning down dragonfire on his enemies, at least equaling Harry Dresdens infamous "I rode a zombie T-Rex into battle" scene.

Danny is something of a weird fit in the Marvel Universe, tho. As I've mentioned before, his backstory implies that he really should be this A-List, high adventure having badass. He's basically Batman if Batman had decided to skip on being a detective and gadgeteer, and focused solely on being a martial artist, complete with Street Fighter/King of Fighters style chi techniques. He's the greatest martial artist of a city of immortal martial arts masters, he killed a dragon in single combat to gain the ability to punch SHIELD Helicarriers out of the sky, etc. Him being on the Avengers or Defenders just makes a lot of sense.

But at the same time, a lot of his success comes from the work he's done with Luke Cage, who in a lot of ways works better as a local hero. But if Batman can work as both a guy fighting crime in Gotham and fighting gods in the Justice League, it should be possible to make it work for Danny as well. Like, the international high-end stuff is him "at work" while the stuff he does with Luke is hanging out with his friends and family. And then occasionally Luke gets roped into some of Danny's adventures and he becomes the fish out of water.

[Blind_Pugh]

Just wanted to stop in to say hi again and I'll hopefully catch up with entries over this week

[Jabroniville]

Just wanted to stop in to say hi again and I'll hopefully catch up with entries over this week

Hooray! You're finally back! I forget when I sent that "Are you still around?" PM, but it's always good to see a familiar face.

[Blind_Pugh]

Good to be back. I have a shameful secret, I've never really played M&M. I just can't wrap my Feeble (2) brain around it.

But I've always loved reading your thread for the commentary and for discovering characters I've never heard of. So I definitely plan to be back here far more often.

As I said in Sidious' thread I'm running my first game (after the best part of 30 years of playing) It's FASERIP so his thread is a godsend. Also I suck too much to find it again, but someone in here posted a link to this place

https://www.technohol.com

So thanks that poster it's a huge help

OK back to catching up.

[Blind_Pugh]

Sagat is not God Tier. God is Sagat Tier.
-Fighting Game fable

SAGAT

-Sagat is easily my favourite Street Fighter character ever- the man is EPIC.

I had to comment on this because it was reading your entries on him that took my appreciation of him from bad MF to complex fascinating character. So much so that I took big cues from him to my depiction of Bronze Tiger in a Justice League game down to using the name of his moves for when I power stunted my martial arts.

My Tiger Knee staggered Mammoth I think it was and let us take him down.

Thought I should finally tell you years after the fact.

[Blind_Pugh]

First up for some reason my phone likes the site more than my PC so expect lots of single quotes rather than big multi quote posts.

GENERIC IMPERIAL GUARD TEMPLATE
Neosaurus- PL 6 (84): Immortality 20 (one round) (Flaws: Requires Housing Bodies) [20]
-Neosaurus is actually a "magnificent artificial brain" that merely controls these turquoise reptilian creatures as housings for it's intelligence. It can presumably enter into other bodies, but we only ever saw one on-panel at once, and Wolverine EASILY killed it and stole it's Flight Patch, so they pretty well suck at fighting.
Blimp- PL 6 (66): Flight 2 (Flaws: Low Ceiling) [2]
-Blimp was basically a useless guy who got slashed by Wolverine and flew around the X-Mansion like a balloon. He had no offensive capabilities to speak of, and had Involuntary Transformation: Tears Open if Hit By Slashing Weapons.

Does it say some thing terrible about me that I really want to see these 2 developed? I LOVE the idea of Neosaurus, and given from what I recall all Guardsmen get flight patches Blimp must have more to his story.

I like the thought of him as a sort of rich boy officer, his family have traditionally been tactical geniuses and great leaders so he got shoved through officer academy and straight into deployment where he's totally unready

Just my thoughts

[Blind_Pugh]

THE SCARLET SPIDERS (Michael, Van & Patrick)

I would dearly love for Patrick, the surviving Spider to adopt a now unused codename, (Lord are there few left) maybe Iron Spider and get a spot in a book somewhere.

Needn't be on a team, could be a Rocket Racer style slot on a Spider-Book. But there's SO MUCH that can be done with him, from the legacy of the suit and all it's existence entails, to atoning for Von Blitzschlag, envy at the clone that got to go back to living as MVP, SOMEONE still having a headband with K. I. A's personality in it that can end up somewhere. Far more besides than I have energy to type and yet more I can't imagine as someone that doesn't regularly read Spidey.

Rant over.